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#31
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Posted 18 September 2010 - 11:53 PM

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QUOTE (fredrick99 @ Sep 18 2010, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,
My 2009 BLM Auto. wad i've done to improve my ride

a) 15" rim 195/50/15
b)Gab lowered sport spring
c) use my preferred 10W-40 mineral engine oil
d) replace air filter with redline drop in
e) replace spark plugs with Denso IR
f) Exhaust 4-1 ,s-flow rear
g) replace stock cam gears with aerospeed adjustable
h) replace stock crank pulley with redline lightweight crank pully
i) installed redline front strut bar,UR lower front 4 point,lower rear 2 point & ARB
j) brek sys.Change top brek booster to double layer,bendix CT brek pad.

Now need u guys to recomend which brek cliper is most sutible for BLM.
BTW do any of u guys know/seen anybody mod their brek sys b4 for BLM.

Any sifu can help me on this.


no suggestion coz im still with standard brake system, no idea. standard feel less bite la.
since you have done quite extensively. dont mine if you can share experience of your mods.
mine not much.
i also using aerospeed but one on the intake side, 421 header and matola s-flow rear,
hurricane for suspension, also 15inchers 195/50.

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got a few question from me,,
-how about the sound after changing sport filter. is it producing sporty sound since its drop in. how about high end?
-whats that double layer brake booster. is it extra vacuum tank?
-how much redline or ur strut bar, im looking for one
-how about bosch super 4, is it good or same.

if you care to share it will be great.
and sorry cant respond for the brake mod. im also looking for solution probably slotted/drilled disc.

may be others will jump in for suggestions.







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Posted 19 September 2010 - 04:07 PM

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[quote name='dabdab' date='Sep 18 2010, 11:53 PM' post='1604844']
no suggestion coz im still with standard brake system, no idea. standard feel less bite la.
since you have done quite extensively. dont mine if you can share experience of your mods.
mine not much.
i also using aerospeed but one on the intake side, 421 header and matola s-flow rear,
hurricane for suspension, also 15inchers 195/50.

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got a few question from me,,
-how about the sound after changing sport filter. is it producing sporty sound since its drop in. how about high end?
-whats that double layer brake booster. is it extra vacuum tank?
-how much redline or ur strut bar, im looking for one
-how about bosch super 4, is it good or same.

Your question
-drop in air filter does not produce sporty sound.(if wan sound try those mushroom type)
sure got wan.But i think turbo is more suitable.
I can still achieve 170kmh.(for a 1.3 i think its good enough)
-ori is a single layer.(don't know wat its call)
its the black round thing in the engine bay where we pour our brek oil.(the whole set)
-forgot already how much is the redline strut bar.(i think around $2++)
-not sure about bosch super 4.But i think is around the same,maybe very marginal difference only.


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Posted 19 September 2010 - 11:56 PM

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definitely appreciate to u all for sharing. ^^ smile_thumbup.gif

What's the different for 10W-40 and 15W-40 oil engine? Which one more power and save fc ?

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

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QUOTE (jj0000 @ Sep 19 2010, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
definitely appreciate to u all for sharing. ^^ smile_thumbup.gif

What's the different for 10W-40 and 15W-40 oil engine? Which one more power and save fc ?

The 10w-40 is slightly lighter..... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:58 PM

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QUOTE (fredrick99 @ Sep 18 2010, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all,
My 2009 BLM Auto. wad i've done to improve my ride

a) 15" rim 195/50/15
b)Gab lowered sport spring
c) use my preferred 10W-40 mineral engine oil
d) replace air filter with redline drop in
e) replace spark plugs with Denso IR
f) Exhaust 4-1 ,s-flow rear
g) replace stock cam gears with aerospeed adjustable
h) replace stock crank pulley with redline lightweight crank pully
i) installed redline front strut bar,UR lower front 4 point,lower rear 2 point & ARB
j) brek sys.Change top brek booster to double layer,bendix CT brek pad.

Now need u guys to recomend which brek cliper is most sutible for BLM.
BTW do any of u guys know/seen anybody mod their brek sys b4 for BLM.

Any sifu can help me on this.

Since you already have a bigger brake servo (booster) you braking power should have improved. Just change the pads to the Bendix Titanium. The CT are for normal use.
Why change the brake caliper unless you are going for bigger disc rotor also. No point if you want to keep original size rotor.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 09:32 AM

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QUOTE (vr2turbo @ Sep 20 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since you already have a bigger brake servo (booster) you braking power should have improved. Just change the pads to the Bendix Titanium. The CT are for normal use.
Why change the brake caliper unless you are going for bigger disc rotor also. No point if you want to keep original size rotor.


--vr2t if we upgrade the brek mainly in front how about brake power distribution front and rear?

using bigger servo it might help to improve braking power all around. i think
but if we upgrade to larger front. it seems a bit imbalance since rear are left standard. although yes the rear doesnt need to be as strong as front.

--jjoo, what it means by double layer. is it double diafram ? or bogger servo?
do you mean changing the servo to the bigger one, meaning the bigger servo, if so, whats the model for the servo is it from other protons heavier model. i do interested in uprated the braking power.

maybe the servo alone will fairly improves braking power all around while keeping the standard component the most.
i might be not quite right. vr2t might want to clarify for us.

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Posted 21 September 2010 - 10:01 AM

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QUOTE (dabdab @ Sep 21 2010, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
--vr2t if we upgrade the brek mainly in front how about brake power distribution front and rear?

using bigger servo it might help to improve braking power all around. i think
but if we upgrade to larger front. it seems a bit imbalance since rear are left standard. although yes the rear doesnt need to be as strong as front.

--jjoo, what it means by double layer. is it double diafram ? or bogger servo?
do you mean changing the servo to the bigger one, meaning the bigger servo, if so, whats the model for the servo is it from other protons heavier model. i do interested in uprated the braking power.

maybe the servo alone will fairly improves braking power all around while keeping the standard component the most.
i might be not quite right. vr2t might want to clarify for us.

bro. dabdab,
I normally don't recommend bigger disc rotor change as this will cost much more and may incur some or even a lot of modifications, depends on what is fitted.
The vacuum servo actually helps improve the braking force. A larger servo will aid more, therefore improving the braking force. But this mod is to a certain extent only. Do not overdo as when the braking is too strong, under panic situation and without ABS, if you lock the brakes, you will skid, and in corner you may even lose corner.
A simple mod is to look at the original servo, and since it is a Proton, try comparing it to the Waja or Persona ones. If they are larger and can fit in then go ahead.
For your info, for the older Wiras, the 1.3 had a smaller servo then the 1.5. When I mod my VR, I replace my original with the VR4 servo that was larger. Then I transfer my orifginal to my wife's 1.5 wira. The wira 1.5 one I gave to a friend driving a 1.3..... smile_thumbup.gif
After improving the braking force a simple pad change will do. A set of semi metallic pads that have better bite and higher heat resistance.
If not mistaken the so called double layer servo is just a bigger servo...... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 10:41 AM

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Allow me to share one thing about my BLM brake.
Right now my front pad is using Yamamoto pad which i bought for RM48.
Rear is still stock as i need a socket to remove the nut which holds the drum.

Brake performance is greatly increased.
The bite is very convincing.
Bad thing is,it will lock up much early as i am still on OE GY Ducaro.
If u want to stop quicker its the combination of the brakes and tyre and some other factor but the 2 are the most important thing.
Changing to aftermarket pad is good enough for BLM.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 05:08 PM

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QUOTE (Gunnerzz @ Sep 22 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Allow me to share one thing about my BLM brake.
Right now my front pad is using Yamamoto pad which i bought for RM48.
Rear is still stock as i need a socket to remove the nut which holds the drum.

Brake performance is greatly reduced.
The bite is very convincing.
Bad thing is,it will lock up much early as i am still on OE GY Ducaro.
If u want to stop quicker its the combination of the brakes and tyre and some other factor but the 2 are the most important thing.
Changing to aftermarket pad is good enough for BLM.

The rear drums with nut means the wheel bearings are locked in place.

Don't you mean brake performance is greatly improved?
For the brakes locking, that is why I don't recommend too strong the braking force.
Aftermarket pads also have many qualities. The ones he is using, Bendix General CT is the lowest in performance. Could be slightly better than OE or at par. But if modding the vacuum servo than at least use the Bendix Titanium..... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 05:21 PM

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QUOTE (Gunnerzz @ Sep 22 2010, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Allow me to share one thing about my BLM brake.
Right now my front pad is using Yamamoto pad which i bought for RM48.
Rear is still stock as i need a socket to remove the nut which holds the drum.

Brake performance is greatly improved.
The bite is very convincing.
Bad thing is,it will lock up much early as i am still on OE GY Ducaro.
If u want to stop quicker its the combination of the brakes and tyre and some other factor but the 2 are the most important thing.
Changing to aftermarket pad is good enough for BLM.