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B5 - Biodiesel 5%

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Posted 19 June 2006 - 04:56 PM



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Hello All

I am ardent follower of Bio-Diesel and have spent many hours reading and
understanding (trying) Bio-Diesel.

Some have suggested that Bio-Diesel eats up rubber and kills fuel and
engine parts. This is only partly true. Why because, the high content of
Alcohol in 100% Biodiesel may cause this. In Malaysia, we will be starting
with 5% Biodiesel mixed with Regular diesel. This may change up to 20%
mix. Our vehicles can cope with this mix up to 20%, this is what most
articles in the net suggest. It also makes sense because 20% Bio with 80%
Regular Diesel should logically still be OK, but as the proverb goes"Belum
Cuba Belum Tahu". So, until we get into it we will never know for sure.

Try this link, it makes interesting reading.




Posted 07 July 2006 - 06:55 PM



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BioDiesel is already available here. Check out this site : www.af-
energy.com. Plant is in Kajang.

There shouldn't be any problems with corrosion from alcohol. Methanol is
used (along with other stuff) to break down the fatty chains in refined
palm oil. It is almost 99.9% recovered from the process. Older engines
with rubber parts may be vulnerable but most modern engines these days use
Vitrox - synthetic rubber for their fuel lines. So, no modification is

B5 or B whatever the government proposes is different. They are actually
using refined palm oil & mixed with petrol diesel! Apparently,the palm oil
will not go thru the transesterification process to break the fatty
molecules. Keeping it at 5% may be ok but anythng more than that....I
won't know. I think it will clog up the engine/injectors in the long run.

BioDiesel naturally cleans the engine and provide lubrication. There is no
soot and the lub oil remains clean & pretty clear - unlike petrol diesel.
The oil turns pitch black within a few days of replacement due to high
soot content. The fuel can also be used entirely on its own or mixed to
any proportion with petrol diesel.



Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:14 AM



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WASHINGTON (AFP) - A growing number of Americans are setting up mini-
refineries in their homes to produce biodiesel, a fuel made from waste
cooking oil which is cleaner and cheaper than the petrol sold in gas

The sky-high price of crude oil is scaring everyone.

Biodiesel has Hollywood backers like actress Julia Roberts and Morgan
Freeman, is sung about by country star Willie Nelson but also meets the
political correctness of the American right wing which has made the
campaign against imported oil a mantra.

"It's better for the engine, way better for the environment, it's cheaper,
but it depends how you price your labor," said Dan Goodman, an
entrepreneur in residence at the University of Maryland Business School
who runs his Mercedes on biodiesel.

There are two ways to get on the biodiesel bandwagon, Goodman said.

Either you change the engine and just put in waste oil, which would not be
strictly legal in the United States, or you can modify the fuel into
biodiesel, which is legal and works in any diesel car.

Biodiesel plants are a boom industry in America, but thousands now make
fuel in their garages from the oil left after frying french fries or
scrounging around restaurants and food factories.

"It's easy when you know how to do it," Goodman said, though he warned
that the process "can be hazardous," since it involves flammable products
and caustic vapors that require a well-ventilated production site.

"You filter the waste fried oil to remove the glycerol, the most sticky
part, and then replace it with an alcohol molecule (methanol) and lye
(caustic soda)," he said.

Goodman makes about 300 gallons (1,135 liters) of biodiesel a day on a
farm in Maryland, where his helper Matt Geiger twice a week brings huge
jerricans of the precious "yellow grease" he collects from restaurants in
the towns of Olney and College Park.

The homemade fuel keeps 15 school buses running in the area, Goodman said.

Most biodiesel fans have organized into cooperatives that make biofuel
from soy oil instead of used cooking oil. The groups have been growing
over the past few years, but they still represent a minuscule part of the
US energy sector.

According to the National Biodiesel Board, biodiesel production has
tripled since 2004 to 75 million gallons (280 million liters) last year.
This year, it is expected to double to 150 million gallons (56 million

In comparison, US consumption of traditional diesel fuel extracted from
crude oil stands at 60 billion gallons (227 billion liters) per year.

But biodiesel still has country music legend Willie Nelson singing its

The 73-year-old songwriter has launched his own brand of the fuel,
dubbed "BioWillie," and strongly believes that biodiesel is the way to go.

Nelson and Oscar winning actor Morgan Freeman are on the board of a
company called Earth Biofuels which has signed up Roberts to help promote
the cooking oil fuel.

"The idea is to do something useful towards eliminating America's
dependence on foreign oil. Consumers can now ensure that their fuel money
stays in America rather than going overseas," Nelson wrote on his website.


Posted 24 July 2006 - 11:27 AM


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I wish my truck can run on cheap waste oil. But....

home made biodiesel fr veg. or waste cooking oil has not proven to work in
long run, many source have claimed it probably would damage engine.

Anyone, have tried?


Posted 25 October 2008 - 09:24 PM



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B5=Biodiesel 50% ?? why 5% only they can go ahead and make B25 or even B50. but of course
malaysian highway is clogged up with cars our great-grandparents use to drive so maybe THATS
why its B5.

claim of damage engine...itdoes not damage engine. diesel engine is originally built and ran on
non-fossil fuel - minyak kacang tanah!

so whats the "damage"?

the answer will answer why malaysia wants B5 and not like other countries which even runs on
B100. the issue now is, FUEL LINE and FUEL PUMP.

biodiesel is an exceptionally strong cleaning agent for the engine. thus the claims of no smoke,
cleaner engine, fuel efficiency, etc etc. BUT it effects some older vehicles fuel line, thus leaks. the
fuel pump will fail if the "non-metal parts" inside the pump expands.

now we knoe why B5 and not very advisable for older cars. can YOUR car take in Biodiesel? check
with the manufacturer's website. i know my FORD can take B100.

how do i know this? i lived with a "foster" family while studying in US and this "ecologically
correct" family had compose that makes butane gas for cooking and ferterlizer, biodiesel for
their farm equipment, etc etc.

so there. i know this thread is old but its just my opinion.


Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:14 PM



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B5 is coming by this June!! any further comments with regard this B5 biodiesel, advantages disadvantage?? all model can consume or only limited to certain diesel engine model?? please share your knowledge and info...

Thanks, best regards.

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 12:44 PM


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in uk already got E85..with 85% ethanol....

here 5% oso already hard to produce.... smile_blackeye.gif

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Posted 15 March 2011 - 04:59 PM


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I've heard about B5 for some time. It was supposed to launched in 2008 but due to technical difficulties (including supply), it was postponed to 2009, then to 2010. Another problem that caused its delay was B5 would be 3-5 cents more expensive, so the big G is afraid how people would react to such a new mix.

As implied by bro rallychamp, fuel mixture is common in US and Europe. Here, our biofuel comes from palm oil, so B5 mixture, if it becomes popular, would increase the demand for palm oil and increase our country's deforestation rate (to open more oil palm fields).


Posted 16 June 2011 - 09:05 AM


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Any problems with B5 on Bimers. New Bimers diesels can take a Max of B7. Would like to hear from user.

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Posted 28 June 2011 - 11:23 PM



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QUOTE (MASsenger @ Jun 16 2011, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any problems with B5 on Bimers. New Bimers diesels can take a Max of B7. Would like to hear from user.

Have used it almost exclusively on my 320d since launch on June 1st without any problems or any change in performance/fuel consumption