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#21
ookami

Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:54 AM

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hhkonghh,

Slick 50 is a form of teflon coating that lasts..similar to Magnetec oil.
Well one man's meat is another man's poison. No problem loh.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:12 AM

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Teflon is a solid and a good oil filter should remove it.

For Teflon to coat to metal, need condition not available in engine
compartment. It's not something you can simply throw and it will stick to
metal surface.




#23
ookami

Posted 24 September 2005 - 10:12 AM

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Agreed with you hhkonghh.

PTFE used by Slick50 is actually Teflon powder. In fact there was a FTC
suit against Slick 50 producer Quaker for misleading adverstisements and
claims. The Teflon contents were supplied by Dupont and even Dupont
claimed that Teflon was incompatible with engine coating applications.
There were also reports that Nasa had researched and tested Slick 50 and
found it to be detrimental to the engines!

Anyhow, I had been using Slick 50 since 1984 and my former Mazda 323 had
been treated every 50,000 Km and when I sold the car in 1992 after
clocking 350,000 Km [3.5 rounds on the old type of odometer]there was no
significant wear and tear in the engine. In fact the piston rings and
cylnder walls were not heavily worn and there was no oil consumption even
with such high mileage! I have also been treating my Mazda Familia since
1992 with Slick 50 and it has been giving me a great "smoothness" feeling
driving the car. There is indeed a difference before and after treatment.

Maybe there are some characteristics in the Slick 50 formula that I was
not informed that Slick 50 indeed could perform as advertised. For those
who are still sceptical..it is better not to use it..otherwise..pakai
dengan penuh was-was!

Cheers.

#24
max211

Posted 07 October 2005 - 02:46 PM

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waahh.. so what is the best way to protect the engine? Btw areo quoted
someone about X1R : "Second, I personally will not put X1R into my engine,
quote from other
forummer
"X1R is based on Chlorinated Paraffin’s, this will cause a rise in TAN
(Total Acid Number) pretty quickly in a hot automatic (like every
Automatic driven in an equatorial climate such as Malaysia).. this means
it will turn the ATF acidic and the acid will hasten the death of the
other additives in the ATF such as anti-oxidants and VI's etc.., which
will make it unstable and corrosive and prone to damage by heat and
shear. "
"

My question is, will it harm manual transmission as well? Is it really bad,
using any oil additives such as X1R ?



#25
inda

Posted 07 October 2005 - 03:13 PM

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Guys...
i want to share something...about additive oil..X-1R is a step ahead from
its competitor actually...their already in 4th generation of additive
technology..the first tech is film base additive which is consider as our
basic engine oil right now...second gen additive using teflon and
molybdenum base.Slick,STP,tufoil are known to use this tech..3rd gen is
using chlorinated Paraffin which is the technology used by Motor-up..and
X-1R considered as 4th gen in which they do not mention what kind of tech
yet..or somebody please can enlighten me here...
just wanna share something

#26
izzm4884

Posted 09 October 2005 - 11:32 AM

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Hi guys/gals,
I also want to share something.... Log on to this site...I feel it's very
important for car lovers/users to know facts about cars better.

http://www.chris-longhurst.com/
or
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might help you all regarding oil-additive issue, as for me additive is a no
no for me... this site was recommended by my close school freind, he's a
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Happy savvy-ing everybody.... I admire the Renault D4F engine so much... in
Europe the engine is currently used by Renault Kangoo.. yes.. Kangoo...

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aworldtochange2016

Posted 20 June 2016 - 02:12 AM

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It is interesting to read about all kinds of speculations about what and
which type of lubricating oil [engine "black" oil] should be used. With
the oil companies and car manufacturers specifying mostly multi-grade
oils, do you still have any choice??

According to Ford Motor data, the following oil specifications are
recommended based on US ambient temperatures:

SAE 30 [single grade] +5 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 20W-40 [Multigrade] - 7 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 20W-50 [Multigrade] - 7 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 15W-40 [Multigrade] - 12 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 10W-30 [Multigrade] - 18 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 10W-40 [Multigrade] - 18 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 5W-30 [Multigrade] - 29 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond

As you can see from the tabulations, the SAE 5W-30 was highly recommended
for US start-up and running conditions where the average winter
temperature may be below - 20 in some places in the north. Lower
viscosity index [SAE did not disclose the relative viscosity indices
against its SAE ratings]support easier engine starts as the oil is
thinner. As for Malaysia, you dont need W grade actually [no winter and
the only thing cold is some government officers' attitudes]..but since
single grade oil is hard to come by [can try Duckham??] the better choice
would be SAE 10W-30 or any oil that has SAE 30 in it. SAE 40 will be for
aged cars. SAE 50 is not recommended. This is my point of view.

Yes, agreed with the notion of "highest wear during engine start-up". Try
to coat your engine with Slick 50 to prevent engine wear during cold
starts. Engine will also be great if you car is driven in our beloved KL
traffic conditions [a lot of stop and go]

 

Hi, if SAE40 is for aged cars then many kilometers would an aged car?

How would you know if you have an aged car? Are you talking about the amount of years or kilometers the car has done?

 

Could I use this type of oil: Shell Helix HX7 Engine Oil 10W40?

http://www.shell.com.../hx7-10w40.html

 

Can you please let me know?

 

Thanks in advance



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Posted 20 June 2016 - 12:09 PM

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Hi, if SAE40 is for aged cars then many kilometers would an aged car?

How would you know if you have an aged car? Are you talking about the amount of years or kilometers the car has done?

 

Could I use this type of oil: Shell Helix HX7 Engine Oil 10W40?

http://www.shell.com.../hx7-10w40.html

 

Can you please let me know?

 

Thanks in advance

Nowadays less people use single grade oil. If need 40 weight better use 10w-40 multi grade oil.

Aged engine are considered worn engines with high mileage on them. For aged engine using 20w-50 oil even better.



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:38 AM

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Nowadays less people use single grade oil. If need 40 weight better use 10w-40 multi grade oil.

Aged engine are considered worn engines with high mileage on them. For aged engine using 20w-50 oil even better.

Very helpful, thank you so much for the quick response.

 

My car has done just over 50,000kms is that considered aged car? I'm not sure what a multi grade oil is but is it OK to use the Shell Helix 10w40 oil?



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Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:20 AM

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Very helpful, thank you so much for the quick response.

 

My car has done just over 50,000kms is that considered aged car? I'm not sure what a multi grade oil is but is it OK to use the Shell Helix 10w40 oil?

50k km is considered practically new. Worn is like more than 200k km on them, but if engine have been taken care off, like not thrashed, oil change on regular basis they can last more than 300k to 400k km easily. If they show signs of wear like consuming engine oil that is where you start to use thicker engine oil like 20w-50.

 

Okay, back to your question on the 10w-40. What oil viscosity is recommended in your owners manual? normal viscosity used among the cars are for Full synthetic oil is 5w-30 or 5w-40, for semi synthetic will be 10w-30 or 10w-40, so there is no harm in you using the 10w-40.

 

On multi grade oil, it is oil that has multi grade option when cold or hot. This means like single grade 40, it is 40 weight thickness whether when cold or hot. A multi grade oil like the one you mentioned 10w-40, is thin like 10 when cold or heavy like 40 when hot, that is why multi grade is a better oil