[bryan90s]

the manual comes with your car, should stated wat oil best suit the engine

[khimfoh]

Bryan90s,

You know what ?. It's true..no my car feels heavier and pickup not so good.
Also the FC not that great.

Im currently using Petronas Syntium 1000 10W/50 and not 10w/30 because SC
didn't have stock. But what to do need to service mah. But know regret
because FC suffered. Used to get 460Km for RM45 now 420KM for RM45.

But will keep on monitoring the FC.

Bye For Now

[leongts]

khimfoh,


If the service manual specifies 30 weight oil, you can take these 2 into
consideration.

1. Conoco (Projet) Diamond All-season 5W-30 1liter or 4liter packs
2. Perodua Genuine Oil 5w-30 (Semi-synthetic) 3 liter packs

Regards.

[mozaks]

khimfoh,
if you already change to wrong grade of oil, add some X1R to the
engine... it is because my waja(renault engine also) last time got prob
with temp... but not sure either because of coolant or engine oil
grade... but after i add some X1R, the prob never happen again...

[hhkonghh]

I personally will not put any additives into my engine, even if it's given
to me free.

The talk about different engine oil available for Savvy is a pointless
unless you want to forgo your warranty. Proton-Edar WILL NOT allow you to
bring your own.

And for khimfoh. I am puzzle as to why your 10w50 gives inferior
performance then 10w30 because they all starts with 10W.

[khimfoh]

hhkonghh,

I'm not concerned about the 0w or 5w 10w or 20w. Its last 2 digits which
i'm concerned about. The 10W is ment for cold climate driving conditions.
In hot humid conditions like malaysia, its not that important. But for the
/30, /40, /50 which is we should be looking at.

From what i read from the internet, the higher the number, the heavy it is
for the engine. For a small CC engine, lower viscosity of /30 is suitable.
A higher viscosity oil of /50 would put a strain on the engine but it
offers higher level of protection. But for a new car a /30 would be
suitable. With a high mileage car a /50 oil is better.

[hhkonghh]

I read somewhere before most of engine wear occurs during initial startup
and surely an 10W oil will offer better protection there. Going by that
logic, I would want an 10W30 instead of something like 10W40. Opinion?

[areo]

Hi All,

First, never put oil that is 50grade to an engine that specify 30 grade,
your engine design might not take thicker oil like 50 grade, it will
cause more wear and tear on your engine. If your Plotong SC give you the
wrong oil, go back to them and ask them to drain it and fill the propoer
oil, if an authorize SC is not following the spec, who should ? you may
check in the petrol and oil section for some oil discussion, is a common
mistake make in this country that more is better. For small car engine,
ie, 1300 below, normally it is design for sae30 grade oil.

Second, I personally will not put X1R into my engine, quote from other
forummer
"X1R is based on Chlorinated Paraffin’s, this will cause a rise in TAN
(Total Acid Number) pretty quickly in a hot automatic (like every
Automatic driven in an equatorial climate such as Malaysia).. this means
it will turn the ATF acidic and the acid will hasten the death of the
other additives in the ATF such as anti-oxidants and VI's etc.., which
will make it unstable and corrosive and prone to damage by heat and
shear. "

hope this will help

[ookami]

It is interesting to read about all kinds of speculations about what and
which type of lubricating oil [engine "black" oil] should be used. With
the oil companies and car manufacturers specifying mostly multi-grade
oils, do you still have any choice??

According to Ford Motor data, the following oil specifications are
recommended based on US ambient temperatures:

SAE 30 [single grade] +5 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 20W-40 [Multigrade] - 7 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 20W-50 [Multigrade] - 7 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 15W-40 [Multigrade] - 12 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 10W-30 [Multigrade] - 18 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 10W-40 [Multigrade] - 18 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond
SAE 5W-30 [Multigrade] - 29 ~ +38 Degrees C and beyond

As you can see from the tabulations, the SAE 5W-30 was highly recommended
for US start-up and running conditions where the average winter
temperature may be below - 20 in some places in the north. Lower
viscosity index [SAE did not disclose the relative viscosity indices
against its SAE ratings]support easier engine starts as the oil is
thinner. As for Malaysia, you dont need W grade actually [no winter and
the only thing cold is some government officers' attitudes]..but since
single grade oil is hard to come by [can try Duckham??] the better choice
would be SAE 10W-30 or any oil that has SAE 30 in it. SAE 40 will be for
aged cars. SAE 50 is not recommended. This is my point of view.

Yes, agreed with the notion of "highest wear during engine start-up". Try
to coat your engine with Slick 50 to prevent engine wear during cold
starts. Engine will also be great if you car is driven in our beloved KL
traffic conditions [a lot of stop and go]

[hhkonghh]

Slick50? Not in a million years in my car. I will take my chance without.