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Posted 14 February 2003 - 11:37 AM


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my observations...

i noticed many people tend to like to shift their autobox to 'N' whenever they come to a stop. this practice actually increases the wear and tear of moving mechanical parts. autobox are meant to be that...automatic, with minimal or no shifting required by driver during driving. some people say it will wear the brake pads coz the car moves. no such thing if your car is not moving at all...no relative movement between pads and discs mean no wearing of parts. besides, would u rather wear down ur autobox or a pair of brakepads?

and what vonnig says is true as well abt waiting for the gear to be fully engaged in 'D' or 'R' before hitting the throttle.

oh yeah, one more thing. do replace your ATF every 20K km or less. they tend to get dirty and the oil breaks down from prolonged use. some people never replace their ATF!

my 2 sen worth.


Posted 16 February 2003 - 12:12 AM


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Mr Prez & wai,

FYI, B4 this problem I have never & ever shift my gear to N!! Even stuck in the long traffic jam or traffic light I never ever change to N! I also change my ATF every 10K (together with every engine oil change!

I think the problem started after 3 trips to Genting Highland at the end of 2002. Where I really tekan habis-habis the pedal just to get the kick power to climb..

Now I have added a bottle of X-1R auto gear treatment (RM48-JUSCO) seems to reduce those jerking problem but not 100% (JIMF-maybe u can try to put this in)


Posted 16 February 2003 - 08:39 AM


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hmmm.... ok... then maybe it's not a gear box? well quite difficult to say then... but let's find out what thehood has to say about this... he's been missing for a while now... and he's also got and auto 1.8i


Posted 17 February 2003 - 09:40 AM



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Well..i didn't play much with the gear shifting too, prefer to press the brake than shifting. Tks tanhb..might try the X-1R.

Went to Latiff last saturday, change the ATF oil (Esso 2 litre - RM 14++). Latiff said the best is to change every 5000km. You might also check the ATF filter..(he show to) which have about 7 outlet. If this "outlet" is block (dirty or a lot of carbon)..this also result in the "unsmoothness" of the gear shifting. It does come with a set of part (don't know what..hehe)..roughly cost about RM 250.

So, maybe need some comment from sifus..tks


Posted 17 February 2003 - 01:27 PM


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Hi guys,

Just to share with you guys, i bought the ATF filter + gasket
(ZX 2.0) for RM100 at F.H. Parts & Accessory Sdn Bhd,
Jln. Kuching.


Posted 19 February 2003 - 06:18 PM



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Hi Everyone,

I wonder whether it is possible to swap my autobox
for a manualbox when the time comes?
Any one out there has any knowledge about this?


Posted 20 February 2003 - 01:28 AM


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Sorry for the late reply. Here's the workshop details:

Maxpower Service Centre S/B
No. 10 Jalan Toman Satu 17/58A
Seksyen 17 Shah Alam.
Tel: 55421255 / 1353.

Look for Mr. Poo Kun Wei. He's the owner of the place and an ex-Directional staff. Very good with diagnosing my Xantia based on my non-technical verbal explanations. :)


Posted 13 April 2003 - 12:25 AM


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Found the following suggestion on how to cure the jerking sensation from
PUG forum- On fine day will pay a visit to Tmn Tun Shell station....

For more goto this attached link


>>> Well the thing with a jerky gear change on an auto
g/box is most often then not,the sticky valve body
which does the regulated changes.When we change the
filter and the ATF we are merely getting rid on
suspended dirt in the ATF and filter only. So what
happens to the dirt which gets embedded in the valves?

There is this guy operating in Taman Tun's Shell
station (just next on Petronas)who does pressure
cleaning the g/box with a cleaning agent before the
ATF and filter is changed. They run high pressure
cleaning fluid into the g/box for about 45 mins to
flush out ALL dirt no matter where it is located, then
ATF is added only to a clean g/box.

I would certainly be more comfortable with that sort
of procedure then just drain away g/box and fill up
ATF and still expect smooth changes! .... btw,the
procedure costs rm150 and plenty of peace in mind!

beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder - puginfo


Posted 18 April 2003 - 10:22 AM



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Citroen is not a perfect car. No matter how die hard fan we are, we do
have to admit. The car is not tropicalise for our climate therefore it
bounds to have problem with rubber parts, dashboard, gear knobs etc. It
very much depends on individual. If you are the type that just enter the
car and could not care less about some small funny sound, or could not a
bother to take a look at your engine yourself once while, you should dirve
our national card then (not bad though). People dirve Citroen for many
reason. Cheap secondhand price copmare to same cc, solid to drive, safety
among others. When it comes to servising, you have to compare note to make
sure people out there who want ot make fast buck on our 'kereta sejuk'
(continental car) they call it. My friend drive 2 years old Perdana V6
have to rebuild his gearbox and cost him RM4500 (by friends). EON quote
RM15k!. Revently I saw KIA Carnival has to bring down the engine due to
overheat. Mechnanic says the part is very very expensive. Gasket (not full
set) cost over RM600. The whole job might cost 3 or 4k. Just because of
overheating. Well friend 'tepuk dada tanya selera'


Posted 16 May 2003 - 12:44 PM


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After all the search & diagnosis by mechanics (The jerking sensation after
sudden stop from high speed), I have found a new Auto specialist in Tmn
Perindustrian Kinrara (RGB motor work- advertised in previous 2 issue of
Motor Traders).

Sent my car 2 days ago (Took opportunity on the holidays). Test drive and
told mw that probably due to valve body dirty. (Quote me ~RM400 to
dismantle & clean-up the valve body)

At the end of the day- I was told that the jerking is still there. They
suspected the clutch plate has worn off- Requote me to dismantle the whole
gear box for thprough overhaul & changing the cluthes -RM2000 and told me
the valve body job is free) Was there yesterday and my car still not done

Have to take EL today. Will report on the overall condition soon after
getting my car this evening (HopefullY can get it today)

This month really bankrupt-loh!! According to them, The worst case of
autogear box failure is on Perdana & Wira 1.6. The best seems to be the 3
gear wira 1.5-hardly any case (sobe-sobe- sold my underpowered wira 1.5
last year...)