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#291
ryder

Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:54 PM

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QUOTE (jameshy @ Oct 19 2013, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been in SDAC Jalan Ipoh 3x.
twice for claim to rectify some issues.
last one for 20k service plus one minor claim.

Here is my 1st experience.
Reach before 730am. claimed about "transmission too hot" that appeared on my driving screen
took nearly 4 hours to get my car back.
Work done : uograde software.
Result : still encounter the same problem on other days. Problem not solved but worst is my car "gruk gruk" a lot on slow drive. Seems like the software update is really useless and create more fuss.

2nd experience
Reach before 730am, claimed on "transmission too hot" and "parking aid malfucntion"
Took nearly 7 days to get back my car. (include the weekend)
Work done : recalibtare and update software (version 22.202), plus change front left sensor and spray job for sensor.
Result :
1. love the power after this software upgrade. The pick up power is really damn good. Only encounter "gruk gruk" sound when on uphill crossing the road hump. but the frequency is reduced.
2. transmission too hot issue is gone and didn't appeared again. Great!
3. parking aid malfunction still happen occassionaly. Problem not resolved. But not affecting the driving pleasure i have with the car.
4. bad thing is I didnt get any replacement car from SDAC for that 7 days.
5. good thing is SC advsior contacted me every day before 5pm to update my car status. ....after I insist strongly...

3rd experience
Reach around 815am. I'm the 4th person in the waiting list for 20k service and claimed on "parking aid malfunction"
Took 3 hours to get my car back.
Work done : 20k regular service and service technician claimed my parking sensor connector is loose, and he has fixed it back.
Result :
1. The car gear shifting is so smooth on slow drive and uphill. The experience is like driving a CVT car. No gruk gruk sound anymore. GREAT!
2. But... my feeling... the car pick up power has been adjusted....reduced....Something bad. But I still ok with it. software version remain unchanged, 22.202. Something strange.
3. But worst is ...... parking aid malfucntion occured everyday now. That's really make me piss off now. but I haven't log in the complaint to SDAC. Anyone can help here!?

One more point... SDAC will do car wash for your car after service or repair, It took nearly 30 min to 1 hour. If you dont want waste too much time in service center, inform SC advisor...no car wash after service, then you can collect your car earlier.
Frankly speaking,,,, the car wash quality is not really good, but better than nothing if you can spare more time in service center.


Thanks for the information. Certainly useful.

Shucks. The car is left in the service centre for nearly 7 days? That would be very inconvenient if there is no replacement car.

Any idea what has been done during the 3rd service that eliminates the jerkiness in the gear shifting and produces the smoothness of a CVT drive? And also solving the "gruk gruk" sound, presumably from the suspension?

The "gruk gruk" sound, I believe it is from the suspension when going over unnevennes in bad roads or humps. I read a Ford Service Bulletin. Any idea if the "gruk gruk" sound is related to this, and the SC has followed the procedure in this document to troubleshoot the problem?
Ford Service Bulletin : Clunk/Rattle Noise From Front End During Parking Maneuvres And/Or Rough Surfaces At Low Speeds Between 8-32km/h

Currently my Focus Titanium also has a thud sound from the front suspension when going over bumps and bad unneven roads at low speeds. The thud or "gruk gruk" sound, not too sure if it is something normal in the Focus or it's a defect, but the sound of the suspension when going over bumps or bad roads is slightly louder than other vehicles that I own or have owned. In other vehicles, the sound of the suspension is a softer muffled thud, rather than a louder sharp thud, or in the way you have described it, "gruk gruk" sound.

I will bring this up to the service centre once my vehicle is due for the 10,000km service. Personally I feel the sound from the suspension could be quieter.

Not too sure what software is currently on my vehicle. Will check if it's 22.202 or something else. Man, that is a long list of issues you've got there with your vehicle.

Not too sure about the car cleaning at Ford, but when I owned the Nissan Sylphy, I try not to let the guys wash my car, both interior and exterior. Sometimes they will do more harm than good. At one point, there is a slight chip on the leather-wrapped steering wheel of my Sylphy, likely caused by the cleaners when they vacuumed the interior of the vehicle. Luckily no exterior scratches on the body of the vehicle when they wash it.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 01:17 PM

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The Powershift DCT has its quirks. I've read that to prevent overheating, shift to N during long stops like in a traffic jam. Do not use the transmission to keep the car from rolling back on a slope. Use the handbrake instead.






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Posted 19 October 2013 - 01:24 PM

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QUOTE (Breadman @ Oct 19 2013, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Powershift DCT has its quirks. I've read that to prevent overheating, shift to N during long stops like in a traffic jam. Do not use the transmission to keep the car from rolling back on a slope. Use the handbrake instead.


Yes, I have read that in the Car Manual too, in that to shift to N when the car is stationary for long periods. Nowadays I don't take too much risk, especially with this temperamental Focus. Even when the wait at traffic lights is not that long, I will still shift to N instead of leaving it in D. Previously I used to leave it at D but now I am adopting to this habit of shifting to N whenever possible. I don't want to risk having the vehicle in the workshop for several days.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 04:37 PM

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QUOTE (ryder @ Oct 19 2013, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any idea what has been done during the 3rd service that eliminates the jerkiness in the gear shifting and produces the smoothness of a CVT drive? And also solving the "gruk gruk" sound, presumably from the suspension?

The "gruk gruk" sound, I believe it is from the suspension when going over unnevennes in bad roads or humps. I read a Ford Service Bulletin. Any idea if the "gruk gruk" sound is related to this, and the SC has followed the procedure in this document to troubleshoot the problem?
Ford Service Bulletin : Clunk/Rattle Noise From Front End During Parking Maneuvres And/Or Rough Surfaces At Low Speeds Between 8-32km/h


I also wonder what have SDAC done on my car. The driving feel is really different. smile_tongue.gif
On gruk gruk sound, mine is due to gear shifting whne on uphill crossing the hump, not due to suspension.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:08 PM

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Two things in the MKIII stand out when compared with the MKII. Same engine but with Ti-VCT (Fordspeak for dual cam timing) making much higher torque and power. And the Powershift for more efficient torque transfer resulting in better fuel consumption. On the MKIII I get below 9L/100 km whereas it was about 11L/100 km with the MKII.

In the long run the MKIII would require higher maintenance cost because the dual clutch needs replacing when worn out.





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Posted 26 October 2013 - 08:56 AM

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QUOTE (Breadman @ Oct 25 2013, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two things in the MKIII stand out when compared with the MKII. Same engine but with Ti-VCT (Fordspeak for dual cam timing) making much higher torque and power. And the Powershift for more efficient torque transfer resulting in better fuel consumption. On the MKIII I get below 9L/100 km whereas it was about 11L/100 km with the MKII.

In the long run the MKIII would require higher maintenance cost because the dual clutch needs replacing when worn out.


Not too sure about the MkII but the MkIII is surely one powerful car with the surprisingly high horsepower of 170ps that is higher than most 2.0-litre capacity engines out there. Torque is decent at 202Nm. And yes, the Powershift transmission is surely efficient in minimising power loss transfer from the engine right to the wheels which may have resulted in better fuel consumption.

I have read an Edmunds review that the Focus MkIII is capable of doing 8.7s in 0-60mph. It will be about 9.0s in 0-100km/h though I got to know that a Focus owner in Malaysia had managed to achieve 8.3s in a 0-100km/h dash. The acceleration of the Focus MkIII is certainly impressive to do sub-8.0s in 0-100km/h.

As for the higher maintenance cost of the dual clutch transmission of the MkIII, I presume it's when the thing breaks down or some parts that require replacement? Guess this is inevitable for most or all vehicles with Automatic transmission. The more complex/advanced transmission, the costlier the maintenance will be. I am more concerned if the Powershift dual clutch transmission becomes obsolete in the near future and transmission parts become uncommon. Since it is likely that we will not be keeping the vehicle for more than 10 years, guess this may not be too much of a concern.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:15 PM

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QUOTE (ryder @ Oct 19 2013, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any idea what has been done during the 3rd service that eliminates the jerkiness in the gear shifting and produces the smoothness of a CVT drive? And also solving the "gruk gruk" sound, presumably from the suspension?


after a week of smooth drive like CVT drive, the gear shuddering is back on slow drive crossing the hump!!!
Pity, I really miss the feeling of CVT on my focus.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:42 AM

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QUOTE (jameshy @ Oct 26 2013, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
after a week of smooth drive like CVT drive, the gear shuddering is back on slow drive crossing the hump!!!
Pity, I really miss the feeling of CVT on my focus.


Hmm, that is bad. Hopefully there will be a software upgrade that will eliminate this shuddering in low speed in the case I experience one in future. Now mileage is still low, about 1300km.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

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For the current Focus Titanium/Sport models, may I ask how much is the cost of replacement of the battery in the event of a battery failure(battery coming to its end of the lifespan)? What is the brand and type of battery?

Has anybody bought the battery outside and brought it over to Ford's service centres for a battery replacement? Will Ford/Sime Darby honour the 5 years/100,000km warranty with this method of replacement?

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 01:23 PM

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QUOTE (ryder @ Oct 28 2013, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the current Focus Titanium/Sport models, may I ask how much is the cost of replacement of the battery in the event of a battery failure(battery coming to its end of the lifespan)? What is the brand and type of battery?

Has anybody bought the battery outside and brought it over to Ford's service centres for a battery replacement? Will Ford/Sime Darby honour the 5 years/100,000km warranty with this method of replacement?

Batteries are covered by ESP.