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Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:31 AM

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QUOTE (nofear1979 @ Oct 30 2010, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
change to FS oil, sure exp.. but last for 10k km....


Rubbish. No such thing. You have been cheated by mechanic or doing the cheating.
I prefers to use my head than follow the crowd. After all, it is my money and not theirs.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 12:33 PM

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QUOTE (Tourist @ Oct 31 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rubbish. No such thing. You have been cheated by mechanic or doing the cheating.


Don't said like this lah...for a advance forumer.

For me.(my point of will only lah)
1.Some people would use a semi.he use only 2+++km only.than he want to try a new brand
that he is intrested that would be better.
2.Some people like me,would use a semi up to 7+++km.Than only change.due to me salesmen
change oil every 2-3 month.(with low budget every month)
3.Yes changeing the oli earlier sure would be better.But some people would think,heard,hope,etc....
maybe 2,4,6 years down the road car got problem,some might not.
Some after changing car,Next owner got big problem.Who knows.....
4.For me....Maybe 2-3 years down the road,engine got big problem.But still don't
want to change car.Than u know lah,it's turbo time/bigger cc etc........

what i am saying is different people got different thinking,idea,taste etc...........
Only 1.5 years on my BLM,also finding for info,knowledge on wat type of engine to fit in
already.Maybe one day really spoil,than No choice lah.Sure must change engine right.
hahahahahaha
Me only lah

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 02:24 PM

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QUOTE (nofear1979 @ Oct 30 2010, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i tot teppet sound is the iafm module??

change to FS oil, sure exp.. but last for 10k km....

Its 10k for the sc at least.
I decided to do so as nowadays i travel from 120km to 160km a day.
If there is site visit,it will be more.
So,using mineral or semi oil will makes me visit the sc nearly once a month and i'm trying to save on the labor cost.

Previously i use Petronas semi syn oil starting from 3rd service up till this 30k service.
Change interval is 5k km.

IAFM's teppet-like sound is much more violent than lash adjuster sound.

drex,
I hav never drag my oci,in fact i send it for servicing earlier than usual.
Only uses 20-50w once on 2nd service.
After they change the lash adjuster, should the engine be driven as usual or should i take caution for a certain mileage?

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 02:28 PM

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QUOTE (fredrick99 @ Oct 31 2010, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't said like this lah...for a advance forumer.

For me.(my point of will only lah)
1.Some people would use a semi.he use only 2+++km only.than he want to try a new brand
that he is intrested that would be better.
2.Some people like me,would use a semi up to 7+++km.Than only change.due to me salesmen
change oil every 2-3 month.(with low budget every month)
3.Yes changeing the oli earlier sure would be better.But some people would think,heard,hope,etc....
maybe 2,4,6 years down the road car got problem,some might not.
Some after changing car,Next owner got big problem.Who knows.....
4.For me....Maybe 2-3 years down the road,engine got big problem.But still don't
want to change car.Than u know lah,it's turbo time/bigger cc etc........

what i am saying is different people got different thinking,idea,taste etc...........
Only 1.5 years on my BLM,also finding for info,knowledge on wat type of engine to fit in
already.Maybe one day really spoil,than No choice lah.Sure must change engine right.
hahahahahaha
Me only lah


Are you an automotive engineer? Are you an oil company specialist?

If not, I would rather believe what the car manufacturers and oil company said rather than a mechanic. And all the car manufacturer and oil company said "5K for mineral and 10K for Synthetic" is rubbish. Only in Malaysia do you hear such rubbish. Go "google" and you will find what I said is true.

I prefers to use my head than follow the crowd. After all, it is my money and not theirs.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:09 PM

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QUOTE (Tourist @ Oct 31 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rubbish. No such thing. You have been cheated by mechanic or doing the cheating.


Is Proton sc biggrin.gif

2 services all done under Proton sc, i posted the receipt last month... You can check with all other Proton owner if you dun believe biggrin.gif smile_thumbup.gif
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:15 PM

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QUOTE (Tourist @ Oct 31 2010, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rubbish. No such thing. You have been cheated by mechanic or doing the cheating.


this is the best quote of the day smile_thumbup.gif
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:18 PM

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QUOTE (drexchan @ Oct 30 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the longevity and reliability of your Campro engine, trust me, any SEMI SYNTHETIC will do, and never use it for more than 5,000km.

Problems with hydraulic lifters is always associated with dragging oil change interval and use of oil thicker than recommendation.

I have rebuilt a few Campro with hydraulic lifter problems and all are associated with changing oil every 10,000 km. All those that I rebuilt have 'excellent servicing record', all done in Proton SC, using full-synth, 10W40 to 15W50 oil, with perfect oil level!
Here's another problem, journal wear, such as those on the camshaft.




Bro Tourist, please read this... we all done in Proton SC, using full-synth... and everyone DO.
Since you say Proton SC is cheating us... smile_blackeye.gif wah... ohmy.gif

Anyway, this is my last service in Proton SC, will change for another workshop.. thanks for bro Tourist for the advice...

ps: My persona just finish 30k service @ Chan Sow Lin Proton SC.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:51 PM

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QUOTE (nofear1979 @ Oct 31 2010, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Proton sc biggrin.gif

2 services all done under Proton sc, i posted the receipt last month... You can check with all other Proton owner if you dun believe biggrin.gif smile_thumbup.gif


Seems like Proton SCs are superior to all other worlds car manufacturer and oil company. For example, Volvo and Valvoline who all said "5K for Mineral and 10K for Synthetic" total rubbish. No wonder we have "Malaysia Boleh" when we have cheats and idiots like Proton SC for saying otherwise.

http://www.volvo.com...omponentsVT.pdf
Synthetic oils do not allow further extension of oil drain intervals. It is the contamination rate, i.e., soot, and the depletion of additives, rather than base oil quality that determines the useful engine oil life and therefore the oil change intervals.

http://www.kitcarmag...tech/index.html
To offset the higher cost of synthetic oil, some of the oil companies claim you can run the oil longer between changes. They say you do not have to change the oil every 3,000 miles. Valvoline does not make that claim. McClanahan says, "The additives in synthetics are superior but they still break down at the same rate and you need to replenish them often. We are unaware of any additive package that lasts longer than what the manufacturer recommends. Those 10,000-mile claims are ludicrous."

If you read carefully, everybody else in the world except Malaysian SC telling you base oil has nothing to do with OCI. It's is soot and depletion of additives.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:36 PM

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QUOTE (Tourist @ Oct 31 2010, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you an automotive engineer? Are you an oil company specialist?

If not, I would rather believe what the car manufacturers and oil company said rather than a mechanic. And all the car manufacturer and oil company said "5K for mineral and 10K for Synthetic" is rubbish. Only in Malaysia do you hear such rubbish. Go "google" and you will find what I said is true.


I thought i said i'm salesmen.
Ang moh said u read carefully.
I said u don't read carefully.
3.Yes changeing the oli earlier sure would be better.

Maybe oversea car manufacturers,oil company,Volvo and Valvoline said, so that they can earn more money.
Than i would say.They should have made a better oil.
For example
1.just say the semi can last 3k.than i would have to change oil every month.
2.For taxi driver.maybe 2x per month.
3.long distance taxi driver JB-KL.5x per month.

Now we all know they make lousy oil.hahahahah


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:25 PM

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QUOTE (Gunnerzz @ Oct 31 2010, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IAFM's teppet-like sound is much more violent than lash adjuster sound.

drex,
I hav never drag my oci,in fact i send it for servicing earlier than usual.
Only uses 20-50w once on 2nd service.
After they change the lash adjuster, should the engine be driven as usual or should i take caution for a certain mileage?

The noise from IAFM is not tappet noise, it's the loose flaps in the intake manifold.

Tappet noise is caused by slow response of the tappet (hydraulic lifter) to self-adjusting the lash clearance.

Just drive the car like 'how you drive a car', it should be just fine. You only need to worry about it when you are sending the car for a head overhaul. Make sure that the lifters are checked before the mechanic fire-up the engine after the overhaul.