Can We Trust Proton?

so what is new???????

If more rakyat set their sights and insist on change. Old regime out, that'll be very new, hopefully.
Its not entirely impossible you know.

If you asked 10 Msian on the street likely you get 7-8 which is likely to vote against the current goons. When they are in power now, many foreigner did not dare to come in because our LAW is not just, and is not meant to protect the foreigner investors. Remember the case where one of the Sultan is charge by Standard and Chartered Bank for violating the bank rule. Every investors who come in are given letter of a list of contract company owned by BN goons. The workers bus and van services and employee agency, hostel, cleaning maintenance, wiring, etc. Who dare to come to Msia? do you think foreigner investor are stupid? they will opt. for Thailand, because in Thailand the things there is cheap, and people serve well, here in Msia the Malay attitude and mentality is strange compare to Thais who is hardworking, loving and pretty as well for some. If you go Thailand the Honda Jazz is used by maid to drive to market, can u believe a maid driving honda Jazz to go market and buy grocery in Thailand, there it is only RM 60K for Honda Jazz. Many Japanese automobile industry set up plant in Thailand, but Malaysian, they not dare because the stupid BN goons who only reward contract to lousy company to get commission. Japan automaker made the right choice, don't come to a halal country or the product become lousy.

I've been working in foreigner MNC for more than 10 years. These foreigner MNC would rather get Myanmmar, Vietnamese or Thai workers rather than Malaysian. The Ketuanaan Melayu has spoiled the Malay making them become very very lazy and having weird attitude. Unlike Thais, there is nothing as Ketuanaan Thais, all the thais work from hand to mouth, they are humble when they are rich unlike the Malay who build palace, but in the end god took their life away remember the (Zakariah)

I can see a trend MNC now moved to China, Thailand, and Vietnam as they have enough of the BN goons. Do you know there are so many invitation to donate to BN goons function. Company have to donate in order to invest in Msia.

That's the reason our things are higher cost, the rich Msian will drive a Benz, BMW and the poor will drive kancil. Some middle income bumi and non bumi will drive Waja and Persona.

Bravely spoken jumpman23!. Just a word of advice, as much as I'd concur or agree with your points but its not right or ethical to directly profile or sweeping statement directed at a particular Malaysian ethnic group for any faults on a public forum. There's always the good and the bad in each ethnic race here in Malaysia. Not all are like that. Kindly take note.

Local monkeys still having their own sweet time here in boleh-land. Proton will only taking few steps advence in years to come while neighbouring countries are flying.

The Vietnamese economies are bloooooming.... Still amazed till this day since my last April trip to Ho Chi Mihn. So many major constructions going on. It'll become a big city in 5 yrs time.

Talk about Bangkok, their subways are 1000% more advance than in KL. Overhead bridges linking all major station and shopping centre. I'm still remember how I walked from my hotel in Asoke to the 4 faces buddha temple. All on overhead bridges and cut through shopping centres.

Own sweet time?... not when they're busy doing other things not seen by many all in a blink of an eye. What to do, you all allowed these kind of flers to continue governing for a frigging half century?.. Any significant achievement during the tenure of the previous administration? In another forum, someone is frigging complaining that super bikers are taxed VERY HEAVILY for years and unfair. What do they have against super bikers that tax is to the point of absurdity. 500cc and road tax is RM400?.. more than a privately owned 2 litre car?. Thats not entirely the point.
Daily life for most if not all here is associated or in some way regulated or coerced by the political system and when you put your mind to it by doing your mathematics comparing other nations trends, you can easily feel cheated by current circumstances and local market forces. Its now so apparent that only "an excuse" is needed and prices for some product or goods will see an imminent increase in price, whilst our pay packet doesn't rise as rapidly. Our local exchange rate and more dependence on imports makes it worse. Even the household name of Walls or Magnolia ice cream once manufactured here for 4 decades are now IMPORTS from neighboring countries. Does that tell you something?.
Malaysia is currently and expensive place to exist and most rakyat have little savings at the end of each month.
I'd still support that protection for local assemblers must be abolished or lifted and a free market allowed. But then again the gahmen can play havoc in taxation policies to everyone's disappointment or anger. If Proton have to sink because its not competitive or a failure, it'll sink. No 2 ways about it. The gahmen cannot be in denial forever, but unfortunately they're very capable of denial and flip flops. Protection for over TWO decades IS ABSURD!, but they don't care and so it continues indefinitely. So, change the regime next GE may open the door or a hope to better things to come, I hope too.
Stop here...but its no means to end end.

There goes your '1 Malaysia'

As always.. from simple, enthusiastic automotive discussion, then the government, end up with 'that race is like that'.

I didn't know whether you're Malay, Chinese, India or etc and never bother to check. Thats why i luv online forum. We never bother on race, religion, skin colour etc. So we are freely communicating now.

Assume this negative, race-based attitude is fully functioning the rest of your day. And as usual, you are in comfort being around your own race. And your own family.

What you're spreading is hatred. And we're going no where.

Yes most of us still did that. Malay is like that, chinese is like that, Indian is that and bla bla. Our children being fed with this ideology from day one (at home) throughout the rest of their life. Think again.... the objective? To witness a bloody racial war again? Cant resist it? Then no point sending them to school. Why not teach our children how to build bunker, to trigger a gun?

Jumpman my friend i'm not blaming u here. Its in all of us. The country is going nowhere with this attitude. See our learning system. Why on earth did we still stuck with 3 race-based system? Its time to let it go....

And only then Proton will change....

It should be shut down. The silent power behind it should also give up or be shut down too. The rakyat have endured and suffered enough. I'm sure many owners would have tolerated more if say it cost RM10-20k, but if its a RM40k to 60k car, there's A LOT to complain about. We're paying a high price and its NOT A JOKE!.

Most buyers would have tolerated if prices of cars are high because the Govt used the extra tax collected to pay for hospitals, for schools, roads and heck even for submarines. But here the high cost is more in order to protect Proton so their products could appear cheap to the public while all the cronies get lucrative subcontracts. And after more than twenty years what do we have???????? Proton is as weak as they started, no improvements which means all the sacrifices made by the rakyat since the beginning gone to nought..

You are right 101% right, it should be shut down and treat its twenty years existence as a bad nightmare.