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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:42 PM

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In any case, the Kuga should have enough power from it's 1.6 Ecoboost engine to haul itself. I would not be suprised if Ford decides to add a higher powered variant of the Kuga later on..

Remember, they did that wit the Escape (2.3L version) and last year they introduced a higher power version sof the S-MAx and Mondeo.

After reading about Ford's range of Ecoboost engines...I dont think the Kuga will disappoint.

They are already feauring the 1.0l Ecoboost that has the power of a 1.6L engine in the new Ford Focus in some markets. If you read about the Ford 1.0L Ecoboost-engined racer, you'll get an idea of what these engines can do..

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:21 PM

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QUOTE (sudha @ Mar 21 2013, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In any case, the Kuga should have enough power from it's 1.6 Ecoboost engine to haul itself. I would not be suprised if Ford decides to add a higher powered variant of the Kuga later on..

Remember, they did that wit the Escape (2.3L version) and last year they introduced a higher power version sof the S-MAx and Mondeo.

After reading about Ford's range of Ecoboost engines...I dont think the Kuga will disappoint.

They are already feauring the 1.0l Ecoboost that has the power of a 1.6L engine in the new Ford Focus in some markets. If you read about the Ford 1.0L Ecoboost-engined racer, you'll get an idea of what these engines can do..

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Yes, definitely 1.6 is enough to haul this baby. And hence why I mentioned that it is indeed the most practical and market suited engine to bring in.

But with a car weight of almost 1600kg (almost 4 persons heavier than a compact car and similar to larger sedans) and with such a huge body shape, the 1.6 is just A BIT lower than a power to weight ratio for a great drive when fully laden with people and luggage. Of course the NAs can't compare, those are way under power in my opinion and with passengers could be a drag even for the occasional highway overtaking.

I would think that an engine with between 280 to 295Nm with a flat torque curve between 2000rpm to 4000rpm would be a really good sweet spot for this car.

And I definitely know about these engines. I own a S-max 2.0 ecoboost 203PS first batch. But I chose to remap it to 240PS, similar to the new batch of Smax for a much smoother highway drive when fully laden. I don't speed on the highways. I stick to 110km/h but the 340Nm flat torque curve makes the car (with 4 adults, 1 kid, loads of baggages) overtake at say 150km/h quietly at low rpms without effort, making the driving experience superior. Of course 340Nm is not really necessary and hence my opinion of 280 to 295Nm for such cars as a balance between car cost, fuel economy and driving experience.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:25 PM

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And of course, forgot to mention that a good remap or tuning box would bring this 1.6 baby just about exactly onto that sweet spot smile.gif

And hence why I think the 1.6 is the best decision for the engine range. But the above of course runs the risk of voiding warranty.

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:42 PM

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QUOTE (scenic @ Mar 20 2013, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1.6 Ecoboost is already more than enough. Road tax RM100. smile_thumbup.gif Where you want to run where AES everyday. I will just enjoy its low end torque which very2 important for a SUV in our daily drive. Believe Kuga can hit 200km/h without straining its engine. Cheers.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:10 AM

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My concern is its reliability on these small capacity engine (1.0, 1.2, 1.4 or 1.6) with force induction as if I am not wrong these engines are relatively new in the market. Further, our not so friendly weather towards force induction engines. Thanks.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 08:11 AM

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QUOTE (br1 @ Mar 21 2013, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Bro br1, you thinking of getting one of the Kugas ? smile_evil.gif Cheers.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

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QUOTE (joker98 @ Mar 21 2013, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, definitely 1.6 is enough to haul this baby. And hence why I mentioned that it is indeed the most practical and market suited engine to bring in.

But with a car weight of almost 1600kg (almost 4 persons heavier than a compact car and similar to larger sedans) and with such a huge body shape, the 1.6 is just A BIT lower than a power to weight ratio for a great drive when fully laden with people and luggage. Of course the NAs can't compare, those are way under power in my opinion and with passengers could be a drag even for the occasional highway overtaking.

I would think that an engine with between 280 to 295Nm with a flat torque curve between 2000rpm to 4000rpm would be a really good sweet spot for this car.

And I definitely know about these engines. I own a S-max 2.0 ecoboost 203PS first batch. But I chose to remap it to 240PS, similar to the new batch of Smax for a much smoother highway drive when fully laden. I don't speed on the highways. I stick to 110km/h but the 340Nm flat torque curve makes the car (with 4 adults, 1 kid, loads of baggages) overtake at say 150km/h quietly at low rpms without effort, making the driving experience superior. Of course 340Nm is not really necessary and hence my opinion of 280 to 295Nm for such cars as a balance between car cost, fuel economy and driving experience.

You stick to 110km/h??? I wouldn't have guessed it wink.gif

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 02:33 PM

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QUOTE (Kevin @ Mar 22 2013, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You stick to 110km/h??? I wouldn't have guessed it wink.gif



There have been some reported overheating problems with the 1.6 ecoboost engines.
Appears to be fairly serious. Ford has issued recalls

Just google 'ford ecoboost recall' and read about it. Appears to be affecting US models and only 1.6
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

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QUOTE (joker98 @ Mar 21 2013, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, definitely 1.6 is enough to haul this baby. And hence why I mentioned that it is indeed the most practical and market suited engine to bring in.

But with a car weight of almost 1600kg (almost 4 persons heavier than a compact car and similar to larger sedans) and with such a huge body shape, the 1.6 is just A BIT lower than a power to weight ratio for a great drive when fully laden with people and luggage. Of course the NAs can't compare, those are way under power in my opinion and with passengers could be a drag even for the occasional highway overtaking.

I would think that an engine with between 280 to 295Nm with a flat torque curve between 2000rpm to 4000rpm would be a really good sweet spot for this car.

And I definitely know about these engines. I own a S-max 2.0 ecoboost 203PS first batch. But I chose to remap it to 240PS, similar to the new batch of Smax for a much smoother highway drive when fully laden. I don't speed on the highways. I stick to 110km/h but the 340Nm flat torque curve makes the car (with 4 adults, 1 kid, loads of baggages) overtake at say 150km/h quietly at low rpms without effort, making the driving experience superior. Of course 340Nm is not really necessary and hence my opinion of 280 to 295Nm for such cars as a balance between car cost, fuel economy and driving experience.


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Posted 22 March 2013 - 05:13 PM

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QUOTE (Kevin @ Mar 22 2013, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You stick to 110km/h??? I wouldn't have guessed it wink.gif


In this car I do, because at around 125km/h the chime sounds.....but another alarm will sound when beyond 110km/h...the wife chime.....and there is no off or override button for this function....