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Why Not So Many People Buying Ipsum?


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:10 AM

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Good... why do you buy Ipsum?

For me -

WISH
1. No second blower.
2. Ok made quality - brand new CBU around RM150k.
3. Price around RM120k for 2004 made.
4. Can seat 7, but third row not really for adult.
5. With all seats up, not much space for luggage for long holiday.
6. Tall - car like (handles like car).
7. Made for less market - less volume, less quality? May be I'm wrong.
8. This model is positioned above Altis and below Camry in Toyota's product range.
9. I don't know if Wish ever won any award.
10. Basic comfort (NVH).
11. Good fuel economy at the expense of power?
12. 2nd and 3rd row when folded - give flat floor for bigger luggage.
13. Mini MPV same as Stream, Mazda 5, etc.


IPSUM
1. Got second blower.
2. Better made quality - brand new price CBU RM250k (the price difference is great compared to Wish - great difference in quality?).
3. Price difference only around RM15k compared to Wish of the same 2004 made, but Ipsum with 2.4cc engine and brand new price difference about RM100k.
4. Can seat 7 adults.
5. With all seats up, bigger space for luggage even if compared with Estima - because Ipsum has got underneath storage.
6. Slightly taller than Wish - still car like for handling.
7. This model is sold in many countries - better quality? I think so because more volume, and need to cater many safety requirements.
8. This model is positioned above Camry in Toyota's product range. The replacement (Toyota doesn't say so) - Mark X Zio is positioned even higher. If this is correct, what does it mean? Mark X Zio is like Merc R-class of Toyota.
9. Ipsum / Avensis Verso was the Best People Mover in Australia for 3 years till 2003 until it was snapped up by the current Oddysey.
10. Good comfort (NVH).
11. Good fuel economy and good power to weight ratio.
12. 2nd and 3rd row when folded - give flat floor for bigger luggage and still have underneath storage.
13. Midi MPV same as Oddysey, Grandis.


ESTIMA
1. Got second blower.
2. This is the more expensive of all, quality should be no issue.
3. Brand new CBU price is around RM280k, right?
4. Can seat up to 8 adults.
5. All seats up, bigger storage than Wish but not Ipsum.
6. Tall MPV - not car like handling.
7. This model is also sold in many countries - quality is proven issue.
8. I don't know where Estima is positioned but definitely higher than Wish / Ipsum but lower than Alphard?
9. No need award - proven model already.
10. I have no idea of NVH for this but logic tells me that it should be better than Wish / Ipsum.
11. Good fuel economy at the expense of power (for 2.4 cc)?
12. No versatile luggage carrying.
13. Bigger MPV - same as Naza Ria.


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:00 PM

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i'm buying ipsum because of many reasons. Most you have mentioned. But my 3 most important reqs are

1. Midi-mpv (not full size)
2. Have 3rd row blower
3. Decent luggage space when all 7 seats are used. a lot of baby stuff to carry when travelling you know biggrin.gif

would join the ipsum club in due time to learn about it more.


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:37 PM

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QUOTE (ejenmulder @ Jul 28 2009, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm buying ipsum because of many reasons. Most you have mentioned. But my 3 most important reqs are

1. Midi-mpv (not full size)
2. Have 3rd row blower
3. Decent luggage space when all 7 seats are used. a lot of baby stuff to carry when travelling you know biggrin.gif

would join the ipsum club in due time to learn about it more.


Good on you! I've been driving Ipsum 2.0 for the past 5 years..feel good any where I or we go..no problem so far..a great MPV..good choice!

You're most welcome to join the Ipsum Club..most of the members now own 2.4

http://myipsum.net


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Posted 29 July 2009 - 10:50 AM

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QUOTE (ejenmulder @ Jul 28 2009, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm buying ipsum because of many reasons. Most you have mentioned. But my 3 most important reqs are

1. Midi-mpv (not full size)
2. Have 3rd row blower
3. Decent luggage space when all 7 seats are used. a lot of baby stuff to carry when travelling you know biggrin.gif

would join the ipsum club in due time to learn about it more.


My mistake, already corrected. Thanks.

Yes... lots of stuffs to carry with babies around us. Glad that the underneath storage can swallow 2 umbrella type strollers.

Hi Sifu Matnor! The Grandmaster of Ipsum has spoken!


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Posted 27 January 2010 - 09:23 AM

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QUOTE (shy78 @ Jul 29 2009, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My mistake, already corrected. Thanks.

Yes... lots of stuffs to carry with babies around us. Glad that the underneath storage can swallow 2 umbrella type strollers.

Hi Sifu Matnor! The Grandmaster of Ipsum has spoken!



Hallo ipsum enthusiast....i just bought sxm10 yesterday..suppose to buy d 2.4 version... but theres some probs wit the car...in kk theres not much choice if ur into the 2.4 model....so i decided to get the 2.0 instead.... i am wondering if ur guys especially taiko matnor can help me regarding choices of accesories for sxm10 model.... i've looked everywhere in KK for the accesories.. seems non existed smile_approve.gif .... if there are accesories in KL...I would like to order it. eg. crystal tail light White color) ... gear knob...etc ....

my next projects are ... e-manage blue n gt box kakimotor exhaust system <---- can get in KK , no ploblem smile_thumbup.gif
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 10:11 AM

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dear bro matnor,

i have already regitered with ipsum.net for the pas 3 week i think but till now, there is no respond from ipsum.net. can u pls check my id: paijow...

now in the mist of handling my bank loan. hopefully it will approve soon. the choice is ipsum 2.4, 2000/2001..

thnak you.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:11 PM

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QUOTE (paijow @ Feb 18 2010, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
dear bro matnor,

i have already regitered with ipsum.net for the pas 3 week i think but till now, there is no respond from ipsum.net. can u pls check my id: paijow...

now in the mist of handling my bank loan. hopefully it will approve soon. the choice is ipsum 2.4, 2000/2001..

thnak you.


Hi all, been looking n sitting in lots of mpv n I need one that handles like a car, but my biggest worry about getting a record is getting spares in east Malaysia, am currently viewing a 04, 2.4 ipsum (79000) and a 08, 2.4 ipsum (100k). Any view and thoughts guys?


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:56 PM

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QUOTE (qkg @ Aug 31 2011, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all, been looking n sitting in lots of mpv n I need one that handles like a car, but my biggest worry about getting a record is getting spares in east Malaysia, am currently viewing a 04, 2.4 ipsum (79000) and a 08, 2.4 ipsum (100k). Any view and thoughts guys?


Spare parts - not a problem so far from Ipsum owners.

Handles like a car? Please test drive one.

Go find in lelong.com.my there is one good Ipsum for sale. Owner is upgrading to hybrid.


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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:38 PM

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QUOTE (shy78 @ Aug 31 2011, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Spare parts - not a problem so far from Ipsum owners.

Handles like a car? Please test drive one.

Go find in lelong.com.my there is one good Ipsum for sale. Owner is upgrading to hybrid.


Hi shy78,test drove one 05, 240u version today,unregistered in Malaysia, going for 110k, ori camera, everything was in good condition, only thing was the engine didn't sound "right", or am I benchmarking it against a new engine purring sound. Do u think the rice is worth it? Read ur blog n forum threads, ur statements n comparison made me choose the ipsum over an innova, my first time buying a record car so a bit cautious... Appreciate any input, thanks...

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:08 AM

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QUOTE (ejenmulder @ Jul 2 2009, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi all!
Scouting for an mpv as family is getting larger. Have been reading here and there (even test drove some) and i think the one that suits our family is toyota ipsum. I think it's a great mpv, not so big like estima but generous enough with luggage space when all 7 seats are occupied. Nonetheless, not so many on the road if compared to other mpvs especially wish and estima. I wonder why? Too expensive?


i'm looking 4 2nd hand estima.but ipsum....i tak tau pulak....can i get 2nd hand $900/mth?