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Peugeot Vti And Thp (aka Ep6 And Ep6t) Design Flaw


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khngooi

Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:42 PM

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Hi bros,

I'm contemplating to purchase the 308THP but after reading about all the problems that you guys are having I'm having second thoughts. The most worrying part is that I'd found a petition about a design flaw in the EP6 and EP6T aka VTI, THP 140, THP 150 engine.

See following:

This is a petition started by a bunch of french owners.

http://distributiont...es_view_eng.php

Another write-up about this issue. This one is from a MINI site which basically has the same engine as the Peugeot 308.

http://www.motoringf...osed/#more-6447


Apparently, there are a lot of complaints about loud engine rattles during cold starts.

To summarize:-

1. Starts with abnormally loud engine rattles during cold start, sounds like metal brushing against metal.
2. Intermittent power loss during acceleration
3. Timing chain failure, cam rocker failure, cam tensioner failure and etc.

Has anyone experienced this?

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:45 PM

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QUOTE (khngooi @ May 19 2011, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi bros,

I'm contemplating to purchase the 308THP but after reading about all the problems that you guys are having I'm having second thoughts. The most worrying part is that I'd found a petition about a design flaw in the EP6 and EP6T aka VTI, THP 140, THP 150 engine.

See following:

This is a petition started by a bunch of french owners.

http://distributiont...es_view_eng.php

Another write-up about this issue. This one is from a MINI site which basically has the same engine as the Peugeot 308.

http://www.motoringf...osed/#more-6447


Apparently, there are a lot of complaints about loud engine rattles during cold starts.

To summarize:-

1. Starts with abnormally loud engine rattles during cold start, sounds like metal brushing against metal.
2. Intermittent power loss during acceleration
3. Timing chain failure, cam rocker failure, cam tensioner failure and etc.

Has anyone experienced this?


nope
but the engine win awards no?

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khngooi

Posted 19 May 2011 - 11:57 PM

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QUOTE (aichiban @ May 19 2011, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
nope
but the engine win awards no?


Well I don't think they won the reliability test..

Have to admit that it's an awesome engine... just a bit scared after reading all that..

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:10 AM

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QUOTE (khngooi @ May 19 2011, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently, there are a lot of complaints about loud engine rattles during cold starts.

To summarize:-

1. Starts with abnormally loud engine rattles during cold start, sounds like metal brushing against metal.
2. Intermittent power loss during acceleration
3. Timing chain failure, cam rocker failure, cam tensioner failure and etc.

Has anyone experienced this?

Well this problem has not been mentioned here by anyone and listening to the engine sound its not something anyone would ignore.
BTW there is someone whose mileage is like 75K so you have proof that this "problem" has not manifested itself here.
I also noticed that the articles refer to cars bought in 2008, so perhaps you worry too much.

Honestly I can't think of any car that's better than the 308T except for the Golf TSi but that's in another price category.


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 01:10 AM

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Thing is khngooi.. Of the handful, tens, or hundreds of people facing these problems, there are thousands out there having no problem with their 308s or Minis or whatevers, enjoying it every day. Same as other makes that are manufactured in the masses. I personally believe its just your luck.. And maybe the SA you choose. Etc etc etc etc etc yad yad yad boring yahdiamlahwisconsin.

So it's really up to you what you want to buy. You can research up on all these negativity, know all the problems of the product you're buying, buy it, and end up getting screwed somewhere along the line somehow like maybe steering wheel patah, rims hancur tiada sebab or anak terbang keluar tingkap belakang ke ape pe lah.

Or post these stuff on forums telling the other owners of that car you wanted to buy that you having second thoughts, 3rd thoughts, fourth thoughts, or you won't buy it anymore. Then you go off and buy another car, and few weeks/months down the road you cry to your wife 'WHY DIDN'T I BUY THE OTHER CAR NOW I DRIVING THIS P.O.S!!!??!". 689.gif 689.gif 689.gif

Oh and by the way, why are people even revving their cars during cold starts? SLAMATMALAMTRMKASIH.
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Posted 20 May 2011 - 07:01 AM

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apa ini ? sterb324.gif lu toyota atau honda punya sales man kah ? LoL...just joking smile_big.gif

so far i am driving my pug,no such thing when start the engine in the morning...in fact,everything is fine ( touch wood 3x ph34r.gif ) soooo far after two years........

the only unsolved "misteri nusantara" so far is the coffee smell while accelerating,which happens once in a while...you guys on the forum made fun of my problem last time,telling me that the french fella's might have added Starbucks along with engine oil into the engine while manufacturing 059.gif my pug



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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:14 AM

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QUOTE (zerachiel @ May 20 2011, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
apa ini ? sterb324.gif lu toyota atau honda punya sales man kah ? LoL...just joking smile_big.gif

so far i am driving my pug,no such thing when start the engine in the morning...in fact,everything is fine ( touch wood 3x ph34r.gif ) soooo far after two years........

the only unsolved "misteri nusantara" so far is the coffee smell while accelerating,which happens once in a while...you guys on the forum made fun of my problem last time,telling me that the french fella's might have added Starbucks along with engine oil into the engine while manufacturing 059.gif my pug



now only i know adding Starbucks bean to engine will make it better 1.gif

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 09:26 AM

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QUOTE (zerachiel @ May 20 2011, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the only unsolved "misteri nusantara" so far is the coffee smell while accelerating,which happens once in a while...you guys on the forum made fun of my problem last time,telling me that the french fella's might have added Starbucks along with engine oil into the engine while manufacturing 059.gif my pug


i noticed that the air con is cut off whenever I do hard acceleration, so you might have been driving past a kopi tiam and the whiff of coffee trailed in the air con duct smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 20 May 2011 - 10:57 AM

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QUOTE (ahtsong @ May 20 2011, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
now only i know adding Starbucks bean to engine will make it better 1.gif


I think they might prefer 'KICKapoo' smile_tongue.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot..._74e381cbe7.jpg


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Posted 20 May 2011 - 11:19 AM

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QUOTE (Andy214 @ May 20 2011, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think they might prefer 'KICKapoo' smile_tongue.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot..._74e381cbe7.jpg

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