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Motor Cycle Tolls
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kaylcar
, Jul 04 2009 10:30 AM, 168 replies to this topic
#11
Posted 07 July 2009 - 10:09 PM
Motorcycles to pay toll? hahaa what a nuisance topic...
As what bro iwae said..I'm a biker and of course a driver too...living in KL, I helped you all drivers in terms of :
1) Reducing traffic jam..1 driver for 1 car as compared with 1 rider and a pillion..
2) Reduce pollution..like someone said a 100cc honda cub and 1300 myvi, which one burnt more fuel and pocket as well..
3) Parking?? they are extra(s) for you as I'd reserved one..
4) Your car suddenly brokedown in the middle of the traffic jam..who assists/helps you for free..
OK cheers..
As what bro iwae said..I'm a biker and of course a driver too...living in KL, I helped you all drivers in terms of :
1) Reducing traffic jam..1 driver for 1 car as compared with 1 rider and a pillion..
2) Reduce pollution..like someone said a 100cc honda cub and 1300 myvi, which one burnt more fuel and pocket as well..
3) Parking?? they are extra(s) for you as I'd reserved one..
4) Your car suddenly brokedown in the middle of the traffic jam..who assists/helps you for free..
OK cheers..
#13
Posted 08 July 2009 - 10:41 AM
QUOTE (wanida @ Jul 7 2009, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Motorcycles to pay toll? hahaa what a nuisance topic...
As what bro iwae said..I'm a biker and of course a driver too...living in KL, I helped you all drivers in terms of :
1) Reducing traffic jam..1 driver for 1 car as compared with 1 rider and a pillion..
2) Reduce pollution..like someone said a 100cc honda cub and 1300 myvi, which one burnt more fuel and pocket as well..
3) Parking?? they are extra(s) for you as I'd reserved one..
4) Your car suddenly brokedown in the middle of the traffic jam..who assists/helps you for free..
OK cheers..
As what bro iwae said..I'm a biker and of course a driver too...living in KL, I helped you all drivers in terms of :
1) Reducing traffic jam..1 driver for 1 car as compared with 1 rider and a pillion..
2) Reduce pollution..like someone said a 100cc honda cub and 1300 myvi, which one burnt more fuel and pocket as well..
3) Parking?? they are extra(s) for you as I'd reserved one..
4) Your car suddenly brokedown in the middle of the traffic jam..who assists/helps you for free..
OK cheers..
1) mbikes reduce traffic jam at the expense of other drivers safety/security i.e mbikes swerve left and right and in between cars and in the end still jam up the entire traffic by standing infront of the queue like heroes. also its not always 1 car 1 driver. cars are made with 5 seats or so for a reason.
2) most rempits mod their exhaust and fuel intake shit and it actually pollutes the air like hell anyways
3) just because you take up less space at parking lots doesnt mean u deserve to argue against paying for toll
4) very funny =D
#14
Posted 08 July 2009 - 06:39 PM
QUOTE (kaylcar @ Jul 7 2009, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1. It's not fair that toll roads are "free" for m-cyclists, after all, they use or abuse the road, cause more accidents than car users, ride in the middle of the lanes causing jams instead of keeping to the left, etc...etc..
2. Remember the pink mini-bas? When the gov. decide to scrap it, everyone said the poor Rakyat could not afford to get to work. So someone is going to say they use m-bike now?
3. If something is free, you don't respect it...true or not?
4. We were not "born rich", that is a stupid comment to make. Some of us work very hard to save enough money to afford an overpriced car, which is then damaged by a reckless m-bike rider! Of course car drivers are also stupid on the road, but they pay tolls, which is the topic here. Two wrongs don't make a right!
5. The tolls that the m-bikers pay doesn't go to the Gov., they go to pay for the construction and upkeep of the road plus an operating profit to the concessionaire, so you are mistaken. That means motorists paying tolls are subsidising those that don't!
6. Bikers use separate toll booths, as they are supposed to use separate bike lanes (but they don't)! So no need for "bike jams".
7. Singapore immigration is completely irrelevant and nothing to do with paying tolls, so do not deliberately confuse the issue here.
2. Remember the pink mini-bas? When the gov. decide to scrap it, everyone said the poor Rakyat could not afford to get to work. So someone is going to say they use m-bike now?
3. If something is free, you don't respect it...true or not?
4. We were not "born rich", that is a stupid comment to make. Some of us work very hard to save enough money to afford an overpriced car, which is then damaged by a reckless m-bike rider! Of course car drivers are also stupid on the road, but they pay tolls, which is the topic here. Two wrongs don't make a right!
5. The tolls that the m-bikers pay doesn't go to the Gov., they go to pay for the construction and upkeep of the road plus an operating profit to the concessionaire, so you are mistaken. That means motorists paying tolls are subsidising those that don't!
6. Bikers use separate toll booths, as they are supposed to use separate bike lanes (but they don't)! So no need for "bike jams".
7. Singapore immigration is completely irrelevant and nothing to do with paying tolls, so do not deliberately confuse the issue here.
1.accidents,hrmm,do they wish for that to happen?
and some of them caused by the foolish drivers as well...we won't stop arguing until we realise that we actually not the perfect one...u blame motocyclists riding in the middle lane and caused jamm..
but do u realise who uses the emergency lane when there is traffic jamm?
it is an emergency lane,but yet motorcyclist use them..we only take the mergency lane but still greedy drivers take away that as well...poor riders...
2. u were not born rich but u were born BOROS...we riders wanna save on fuel expenses and bla2 by riding a motorcycle..but u choose to drive alone in your junk to work...that's your choice..may you be happy with it...
since when motorcycles weighs a tonne?those road abusers were actually overweight....basic science mah...if u accuse of motorcycles being abusive on the road then u drivers with your SUV maybe,should be called road rapist...
and do u ever checked the motorcycle lane?i guess not,u don't ride....most of them full with thieves and lots a pothole..if this the case,we don't need any motorcycle lane...expose us even more with danger..we are fine riding in emergency lane..
3. not true..sorry..
i do agree some of the motorcyclist making havoc in the middle of the road..but they are the ppl which are different from the true riders...they are called mat rempits...again,mat rempits love to burn fuel for nothing unlike us...so don't get confused..
in conclusions,not all riders are mat rempits and not all drivers are foolish..
just don't post like a foolish driver think...
#15
Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:37 PM
QUOTE (silsis @ Jul 8 2009, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1) mbikes reduce traffic jam at the expense of other drivers safety/security i.e mbikes swerve left and right and in between cars and in the end still jam up the entire traffic by standing infront of the queue like heroes. also its not always 1 car 1 driver. cars are made with 5 seats or so for a reason.
2) most rempits mod their exhaust and fuel intake shit and it actually pollutes the air like hell anyways
3) just because you take up less space at parking lots doesnt mean u deserve to argue against paying for toll
4) very funny =D
2) most rempits mod their exhaust and fuel intake shit and it actually pollutes the air like hell anyways
3) just because you take up less space at parking lots doesnt mean u deserve to argue against paying for toll
4) very funny =D
that's ur opinion and I'm not either one of them...remember, I also a driver like you but I choose bike as the easiest mode of transportation in KL..while you still stuck in the jam, I'm now at home replying your comments..hehe..
#16
Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:39 PM
QUOTE (iwae405 @ Jul 8 2009, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
1.accidents,hrmm,do they wish for that to happen?
and some of them caused by the foolish drivers as well...we won't stop arguing until we realise that we actually not the perfect one...u blame motocyclists riding in the middle lane and caused jamm..
but do u realise who uses the emergency lane when there is traffic jamm?
it is an emergency lane,but yet motorcyclist use them..we only take the mergency lane but still greedy drivers take away that as well...poor riders...
2. u were not born rich but u were born BOROS...we riders wanna save on fuel expenses and bla2 by riding a motorcycle..but u choose to drive alone in your junk to work...that's your choice..may you be happy with it...
since when motorcycles weighs a tonne?those road abusers were actually overweight....basic science mah...if u accuse of motorcycles being abusive on the road then u drivers with your SUV maybe,should be called road rapist...
and do u ever checked the motorcycle lane?i guess not,u don't ride....most of them full with thieves and lots a pothole..if this the case,we don't need any motorcycle lane...expose us even more with danger..we are fine riding in emergency lane..
3. not true..sorry..
i do agree some of the motorcyclist making havoc in the middle of the road..but they are the ppl which are different from the true riders...they are called mat rempits...again,mat rempits love to burn fuel for nothing unlike us...so don't get confused..
in conclusions,not all riders are mat rempits and not all drivers are foolish..
just don't post like a foolish driver think...
and some of them caused by the foolish drivers as well...we won't stop arguing until we realise that we actually not the perfect one...u blame motocyclists riding in the middle lane and caused jamm..
but do u realise who uses the emergency lane when there is traffic jamm?
it is an emergency lane,but yet motorcyclist use them..we only take the mergency lane but still greedy drivers take away that as well...poor riders...
2. u were not born rich but u were born BOROS...we riders wanna save on fuel expenses and bla2 by riding a motorcycle..but u choose to drive alone in your junk to work...that's your choice..may you be happy with it...
since when motorcycles weighs a tonne?those road abusers were actually overweight....basic science mah...if u accuse of motorcycles being abusive on the road then u drivers with your SUV maybe,should be called road rapist...
and do u ever checked the motorcycle lane?i guess not,u don't ride....most of them full with thieves and lots a pothole..if this the case,we don't need any motorcycle lane...expose us even more with danger..we are fine riding in emergency lane..
3. not true..sorry..
i do agree some of the motorcyclist making havoc in the middle of the road..but they are the ppl which are different from the true riders...they are called mat rempits...again,mat rempits love to burn fuel for nothing unlike us...so don't get confused..
in conclusions,not all riders are mat rempits and not all drivers are foolish..
just don't post like a foolish driver think...
thumbs up bro iwae... just don't give them a chance.. I think they're too jealous with bikers who also drivers like us..
#17
Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:30 PM
get a life.. i have 2 cars but i choose to ride.. time is precious..i hate to waste 2 hours a day trap in car..
#18
Posted 09 July 2009 - 12:14 AM
modifying intake sh1t and exhaust sh1t making motorcycles pollutes the air like hell?comparing to what?a car maybe?
who's your science teacher,and math also...poor teacher teaching u like hell but still stupid as cow...
sorry i miss this point..just read them back..still got another point but really lazy already..
looks like hotter and hotter..i love this..hahahaha
motorcycles swerve left and right causing jamm??oh come on...don't u have some imagination like u do in the bathroom?
just imagine the motorcycles did not exist?u still end up caught in jam..don't u?
just admit it guys,u guys actually really jealous because we can go through the trafic no sweat while u get caught in jamm cursing here and there...honking and barking all the way to home...
by the time u reach home,u felt really tired,don't have time with your kiddos and some fun with your wife..hahahaha
who's your science teacher,and math also...poor teacher teaching u like hell but still stupid as cow...
sorry i miss this point..just read them back..still got another point but really lazy already..
looks like hotter and hotter..i love this..hahahaha
motorcycles swerve left and right causing jamm??oh come on...don't u have some imagination like u do in the bathroom?
just imagine the motorcycles did not exist?u still end up caught in jam..don't u?
just admit it guys,u guys actually really jealous because we can go through the trafic no sweat while u get caught in jamm cursing here and there...honking and barking all the way to home...
by the time u reach home,u felt really tired,don't have time with your kiddos and some fun with your wife..hahahaha
#20
Posted 09 July 2009 - 11:56 AM
what about harleys??
do they ride in the middle of the lane and causing jamm?
haha..they are faster than ur junk lah..
yes i know this thread concerning why bikers should pay tolls..but the reason posted so far is like from a kid's mind..or even worse..i'm doing my best to try being a kid to understand u guys...
topic: motorcycle tolls (why should bikers pay tolls)
reason:
1. bikers being abusive OTR (please define abusive)
2. bikes being pollutive when they mod intake sh1t and exhaust sh1t (is this 4 real)
3. swerve left and right causing jamms (laugh a lot on this one,u were just like thinking very hard out of your empty brain to put the blame on bikers)
4.
conclusion:
better get back to your nerdy team with a thick glasses and think more....coz i can't stand drivers who think they are so great...
just let me tell u a story when i ride from KL to malacca..
while i stop for a gas and plan to take a nice nap,i stumbbled upon a man,woman and a child in front riding a Honda EX5..
in case most of you nerdy don't know what is a Honda EX5..it is a kapchai 97cc with a max speed of 90-100km/h...
the man stop at the booth where i plan to take a nap,while the woman goes to the toilet..
and i ask him "where to?"
he said "batu Pahat"
"from?" i said..
"from ipoh" he said..
oh my god...some of u might not believe this..even do i...
but judging from the kid in front and overall condition,i can guarantee they rode long enough...
"tak penat ke?"i ask..
he said " nak buat macam mana dik,ini je ade?lagipn kami berenti banyak tempat,rehat"
i'm amazed and i prayed he could own a car some day..
if this is the guy u guys plan to put tolls on,go ahead..u guys are pain in the a$$
bikers refering to those riding 2 wheelers..
no matter how big their wheelers are...
****when car break down who is the first to stop and help? yeah right.....more like stopping to see what they can rob and steal!****
if this is the way u think of a biker coming to the resQ,i pray u get stranded on a highway without help everytime u're on highway...
act my bikes are heavy with tools...some spare parts also..coz i ride quite a long distance..and most of the time,those tools are not for me,they are for those in need...and been very helpful...during all my riding ages up to this moment,only couple of times i really use my own tool for my ride...
a waja with a shorted fuel pump connector once..
saga's shorted fan wiring
and many more....
do they ride in the middle of the lane and causing jamm?
haha..they are faster than ur junk lah..
yes i know this thread concerning why bikers should pay tolls..but the reason posted so far is like from a kid's mind..or even worse..i'm doing my best to try being a kid to understand u guys...
topic: motorcycle tolls (why should bikers pay tolls)
reason:
1. bikers being abusive OTR (please define abusive)
2. bikes being pollutive when they mod intake sh1t and exhaust sh1t (is this 4 real)
3. swerve left and right causing jamms (laugh a lot on this one,u were just like thinking very hard out of your empty brain to put the blame on bikers)
4.
conclusion:
better get back to your nerdy team with a thick glasses and think more....coz i can't stand drivers who think they are so great...
just let me tell u a story when i ride from KL to malacca..
while i stop for a gas and plan to take a nice nap,i stumbbled upon a man,woman and a child in front riding a Honda EX5..
in case most of you nerdy don't know what is a Honda EX5..it is a kapchai 97cc with a max speed of 90-100km/h...
the man stop at the booth where i plan to take a nap,while the woman goes to the toilet..
and i ask him "where to?"
he said "batu Pahat"
"from?" i said..
"from ipoh" he said..
oh my god...some of u might not believe this..even do i...
but judging from the kid in front and overall condition,i can guarantee they rode long enough...
"tak penat ke?"i ask..
he said " nak buat macam mana dik,ini je ade?lagipn kami berenti banyak tempat,rehat"
i'm amazed and i prayed he could own a car some day..
if this is the guy u guys plan to put tolls on,go ahead..u guys are pain in the a$$
bikers refering to those riding 2 wheelers..
no matter how big their wheelers are...
****when car break down who is the first to stop and help? yeah right.....more like stopping to see what they can rob and steal!****
if this is the way u think of a biker coming to the resQ,i pray u get stranded on a highway without help everytime u're on highway...
act my bikes are heavy with tools...some spare parts also..coz i ride quite a long distance..and most of the time,those tools are not for me,they are for those in need...and been very helpful...during all my riding ages up to this moment,only couple of times i really use my own tool for my ride...
a waja with a shorted fuel pump connector once..
saga's shorted fan wiring
and many more....