[dandruff]

Hi..

I was driving around Sunway the other day and noticed this auto shop
specialising in TEFLON to detail car.. apparently its a relatively new
thing here and they give a 2 year warrantly that your car will shine..

Not sure about this tech.. does anyone here know anything about this? How
does this compare with the regular wash-clay-polish-wax?

I asked them about prices.. its about RM680 for a Gen2..and maintainance
touch ups of teflons cost about RM50-60 every half yearly..

Anyone tried this before?
Tks

[DarthDude]

dandruff......

Check out the "advanced search" feature at the bottom of the Forum page dude..... you'll find that
this question and the other question you asked have been covered before and have been quite
comprehensively dsicussed.

Cheers bro.. and welcome to the forum!!!

Darth

[sherwin]

From what I know, Teflon is useless as a paint sealant as there is no way
it can bond to the surface. The only way is to polarize the paint surface.

Leave Teflon for frying pans

[silgt]

for it to work onto our car paint, your detailer will need to bake the car
at over 300 degrees in the oven. Otherwise it is just a useless bit of
advertising

[shawn26]

there are a lot of comments on this product recently in this same website
under "shinenshield - anyone try before ?". So to this postings and you
will learn a lot of this products.

[DigitalKL]

I must admit Im quite curious with this product and yet skeptical. If
teflon dont stick to car paint then how do they guarantee you for 2 years
without any "top-up" and re-application?

But if it works so well, why dont car manufacturers start doing it in the
manufacturing process?

[mike5220]

Some do. Some comments from ppl.

"Hi,

Seems there is a lot of ill informed people on this topic. I have just
ordered a new BMW 525IA Touring 2003 model, and it's paint will be Teflon
(8% PTFE) coated in Norway. This to ensure a stronger coating and of
course make it easier to keep clean. Car makers only use water based
paints today (environmental regulations), and thus is less resistant to
impacts/wear than before.

For car owners who never travel outside inner cities, or in countries
where there is no rain/snow or bad weather this should not pose a
problem, as there is hardly any sand, gravel, salt or other debris in the
roads/freeways. But when you use your car everywhere, high speed driving
and sand in your "face" will damage the paint, hence a Teflon coating is
an improvement. It will make repaint a pain, but that is a cost the
insurance company will have to deal with.

Perhaps this is unknown with other car makers, but BMW does so in Norway,
as well a well equipped service providers. I get it for free, but
otherwise it will cost USD 500.- It will need to be checked/updated once
a year. It has a 12 month guarantee too!

This is a rather new approach, and the Norwegian BMW dealer just recently
invested quite a bit of money for the equipment. The second BMW dealer
has chosen to use a partner for this (due to the high investment costs).

Regards,

Morten Ross
- Norway

May 4, 2005

Based on my research through the internet, I got the conclusion as
followed:

1. If teflon is used as an additive in a wax or a paint sealant, it will
be useless because there is no way teflon can be bonded to the paint
surface.

2. Teflon can be a good paint protection if it applies through a
polarized system. This polarized systems requires Teflon paint sealant to
be applied onto paint surface in 2 steps. The 1st step is to positively
charge the paint surface using a certain chemical. According to the
information on the internet, this step will also open the pores of the
paint surface. The 2nd step is to apply the Teflon paint sealant onto the
positively charge paint surface. Since Teflon has negative charge, Teflon
paint sealant will create a strong bond with the paint surface that has
been positively charged through the first step preparation.

However, please bear in mind that the polarized sytems process only
protect the paint surface. It doesn't remove any swirl / scratch mark or
oxydation from the paint surface. Thus, the paint surface should be
cleaned and well prepared first before applying this polarized Teflon
paint protection. The window period to apply the second step is 2 hours
after applying the first step. After applying the 2nd step, Teflon need
at least 48 hours cure time to ensure that the bonding process is
completed.

I found many brands that sell polarized Teflon paint protection, they
are: 5 star shine, paint defence, counteract paint protection, CPC paint
sealant, R 2000, etc. It seems all of these brands using the same method
and materials. They even give the same warranty and claiming it can last
for 5 years without any necessity to renew the process. This fact makes
me wonder whether those brands buying the material from the same source /
manufacturer and then resell it using their own brand or they buy the
formula from someone or a company, then manufacture the product by
themselves and sell it using their own brand.

www.neverwax.com

March 15, 2006

My 1993 Volvo exterior paint was treated with Teflon by the dealer when
purchased new. It has been re-applied by the dealer every three years or
so for about $100 (discounted good customer rate). The dark blue paint on
my 13 year old car looks shiny and nearly brand new! It has never had
wax, only washed and Teflon treated by the dealer."

[shawn26]

Hi Mike, you must have done a lot of research on this teflon coating
products. Thanks for your info. They are really interesting. By the way,
5 Star Shine (USA), Neverwax (USA), Paint Defence (Scotland), Shine N
Shield (Malaysia), Colourshield (Australia) are all marketing the same
pps teflon coating product bearing the US patent no. 5,081,171. If one go
to its principal website : www.ppstechnology.com will be able to find out
its worldwide distributors.

Look like this pps teflon coating products has been proven and accepted
worldwide and we are really behind time to learn about this innovative
teflon coating which is much superior to wax and other paint protection
products. Gathered that you have done your car too and are pretty happy
with the end results.Isn't it?

[chkwong]

Done mine 1yr ago, still shine as ever. Better shine then the new car in
the showroom.

[multipla]

I agree with chkwong,

I've done mine for close to 3 months already, and yesterday, brought my
wife's pearl white car to do it as well.

Within the first 3 months, i just wash my car only. The shine still stands
out (people thought i repainted my 4 yr old car).

Another thing to note is, there no tar marks on the bottom of my car (the
usual places like the bottom front door near the wheel arches).

As my wife's car is white, it's a pain to remove the tar marks each week.
So, shine and shield i went and did, and it did goooood!

At least i don't have to rigorously maintain it for 2 years! Bye bye waxing!