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#1
tifoman

Posted 17 June 2005 - 03:17 AM

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2008 f1 draft regulation is out.

1. massive reduction in downforce (to around 10% or about 3000N of todays
standard. for comparison, an enzo ferrari can generate 7000N of downforce)

2. increase in car width to minimize drag

3. SLICK TYRES (no mention if its current width or skinny tyres)

4. single tyre supplier

5. ban on tyre warming blankets

6. banning on exotic materials and introduction of standardised components

7. standard FIA-issued ECU to eliminate driver aids

8. manual bread-and-butter gearbox w/ foot operated clutch pedal.

9. strict control of data acquisition

10. max testing mileage of 30000km (top teams are doing about 50000km now)

11. banning of spare car

end.

new rules dont look promising. other than slick tyres, its going backwards.
looks like a formula ford with wings and a big V8 in it. gonna be an
interesting development though, wonder what plans GPWC has...if they still
exist.

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KlipschJ

Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:23 AM

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Summary of the main changes proposed for 2008.


Engines.

- All components of the engine will be controlled by an Electronic
Control Unit (ECU) which has been manufactured by an FIA designated
supplier to an agreed specification
- The ECU may only be used with FIA approved software and may only be
connected to the control system wiring loom, sensors and actuators as
specified by the FIA
- All control sensors, actuators and FIA monitoring sensors will be
specified and homologated by the FIA
- The control system wiring loom connectivity will be specified by the FIA
- A 3 litre V10 engine will remain an option for teams unable to obtain a
2.4 litre V8, but subject to similar strict performance limitations as in
2006 and 2007

Reasons:

- to eliminate the use of driver aids such as traction control
- as teams will not be able to develop their own ECUs, expenditure on
electronics will be considerably reduced
- to allow the FIA to check testing mileage and other elements
- to keep engine costs low for the smaller independent teams


Gearboxes.

- All cars will be fitted with gear ratios, final drive ratios and
differentials which have been manufactured by an FIA designated supplier
to an agreed specification
- Gear changing will only be permitted by the use of a manually operated
mechanical linkage to the gearbox
- Clutches will only be operated via a foot pedal connected mechanically
to a release mechanism

Reasons:

- to restore control over the clutch and gear changing to the driver
- the use of standard gearbox internals will result in a very significant
reduction in expenditure


Bodywork.

- Downforce will be reduced to approximately 10% of current levels
- Drag will be maintained at current levels
- Overall car width will be increased
- By stipulating maximum and minimum dimensions cars will be ?cleaned up?
with devices such as barge boards, flip ups, winglets and other small add
on parts removed
- Total advertising area on the car to remain unchanged

Reasons:

- to reduce the reliance upon downforce as a means of improving
performance
- by increasing mechanical grip the likelihood of one car being able to
follow another closely in corners, and hence be in an attacking position
at the end of the following straight, will be increased
- eliminating winglets, bargeboards, etc, will reduce costs as well as
the danger of debris on the circuits
- drag should remain unchanged in order to ensure straight line speeds do
not increase significantly


Wheels and tyres.

- Tyres will be supplied by one manufacturer appointed by the FIA after
an invitation to tender. Such an appointment will be conditional upon :
- a suitable supplier being available ;
- a suitable system to ensure tyre testing is carried out in an equitable
manner ;
- no team being disadvantaged by the appointment of a single supplier
(detailed regulations will be written to ensure this would not be the
case) ;
- there being no legal impediments during the process of appointing a
supplier
- Slick tyres will be introduced for use in dry weather
- Lower profile tyres will be introduced
- Significantly larger wheels with minimum and maximum sizes stipulated
for front and rear will be permitted
- Tyre blankets and other heating devices will be prohibited
- All tyre regulations will reside in the Technical Regulations

Reasons:

- a single supplier would allow a bigger safety margin
- the absence of competitive tyre testing would reduce costs
- as relatively small differences in tyre compound and construction can
have a significant effect on lap times, a single tyre supplier would
simply ensure that no team would be adversely affected by being
contracted to the ?wrong? supplier
- slick tyres would be re-introduced as a part of the low-downforce and
high-mechanical-grip package
- lower profile tyres would be introduced in order to give the wheels and
tyres a more modern look and also permit more freedom on brakes and
suspension
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KlipschJ

Posted 17 June 2005 - 10:22 AM

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Data acquisition and telemetry.

- With specific exceptions, any data acquisition system, telemetry system
or associated sensors additional to those associated with the ECU will be
physically separate and completely isolated from the control electronics
- Pit to car telemetry will be prohibited

Reasons:

- to ensure that any data acquisition system used by a team cannot
interfere with the FIA specified ECU and sensors
- to ensure teams are unable to send messages to a car and potentially
affect its performance


Materials.

- Limitations, similar to those within the 2006 engine regulations, will
be imposed on all parts of the car

Reason:

- costs will be reduced as research into exotic materials will be
unnecessary


Starter.

- All cars will be equipped with a driver operated starter which is
capable of starting the car without outside assistance a minimum number
of times

Reasons:

- to simplify the operation of starting a car, at present it is massively
complex
- to give the driver a chance of starting a car unaided in the event of
it stopping on the track
- to reduce the number of personnel needed at an Event and hence reduce
costs


Notice of change.

- Notice periods for changing the rules will be related to the effect (if
any) of a change on the design of a car rather than an artificial
distinction between ?sporting? and ?technical? regulations. There will no
longer be a distinction between changes to the engine, transmission or
chassis.

Reason:

- to ensure that changes may be made to the regulations in a timely and
more realistic way


Spare cars**

- Spare cars will be prohibited, i.e. no team may have more than two
built-up cars available at an Event at any one time. Spare chassis will
be permitted but precisely what constitutes a car in this context will be
clearly defined

Reason:

- by taking one car less to races teams will be able to save considerable
sums of money as, apart from the cost of the car itself, fewer personnel
will be needed


Testing**

- Testing will be limited to 30000km per team between 1st January and
31st December, subject to a single tyre supplier being appointed

Reason:

- To reduce the enormous amounts of money currently being spent on testing


Car acquisition**

- Teams will be free to buy a complete car or any part of a car from
another constructor
- How constructor`s points are to be allocated will be clearly defined
after further discussion

Reason:

- to enable a team to buy a complete car, or any part of a car, from
another constructor. As a result teams will be able to save considerable
sums of money on the design and development of their cars


** For the purposes of the submission to the World Council these Sporting
Regulations will be included as an addendum to the draft Technical
Regulations.


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Posted 17 June 2005 - 11:36 AM

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i see alot of FIA made/designed components.....

doesn't sound like Formula 1 anymore,looks more like Formula FIA :(
like that GP2 will be the pinnacle of motorsports...hahahaha
what a joke!!
after all, GP2 has large wings,same bridgestone tyres, paddle-shift 'box,
big 700hp V8 etc.



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Alfamaniac

Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:06 PM

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I think MS would have retired by then and my interest in F1 would have
probably waned. One off-shoot of the developments in F1 is the adaptation
of technological advancements in F1 cars for usage in normal road cars.
With all sorts of technical restrictions imposed by the FIA on ECUs,
gearboxes and what not, such advancements would be lost. Hence why would
any car manufacturer wanna be involved in F1 since they have lost their
testing beds? The only reason for their F1 existence would only for image
purposes, for which they may not be willing to pay the price for?

Anyone willing to bet their bottom dollar as to who would be owning the
companies supplying F1 components? Jean Todt? MS? Bernie? Max Mosley? Wink

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tifoman

Posted 17 June 2005 - 09:04 PM

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exactly. it will just be a competition made to test the drivers skill. full
stop.we have alot of those Formulas already. unlike now, where F1 is a
testing ground for new technology for car manufacturers and industry
leaders(like Shell or those CFD software companies).

and with ferrari relying heavily on F1 technology to sell thier cars, looks
there wont be anything more advanced than the F430 or enzo. well, this is
just a draft, hope the manufacturers are more involved rather than just
using off-the-self parts from bernie's and ron's factory(not just JT).


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patricktoh

Posted 18 June 2005 - 08:56 AM

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One word to describe Dead

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 12:02 PM

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I followed F1 since I was a kid ....
1. then was man & machine suvival of the skilled ....
2. soon turned to war of companies ....
3. then turn to best technology wins .....
4. then turn into we want more money....
5. then turn into politics
6. then into NO BLOODY RACE!
7. 2008 WTF! If I were a full fledge big name team I will just form
another race with the other teams & just leave F1 to Bernie to make F1
cars himselves for rookie drivers to learn to drive "L" F1 cars.... Sh1T
the politics in sports!

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 12:03 PM

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2005 = F#1 Circus

2008 = Game over.

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MxThrottle

Posted 20 June 2005 - 12:11 PM

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Too much intervention by FIA into the rules is killing F1.
It wont be as exciting and interesting as it was couple of years ago