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discusman

Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:57 PM

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My ABS is not working- mechanic say change module- original about 3k. However,
he recommend recon- type. About 600 only.

Of course the difference in price is attractive. But to me (correct me if i am wrong),
ABS is something you dont use everyday but once you need it (slam brakes), it
better be working because lives depend on it!

So, can anyone share their comments/knowledge/feedback on recon- ABS?

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Newkelisa

Posted 15 April 2005 - 05:32 PM

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You didn't mentioned what year or model but have you checked with your
trusty parts shop.

No disrespect to your mechanic but I have come across workshops marking up
ABS modules 100% more and then some. If I recall new ones can be had for
less than $1000 depending on which models of course. Suprisingly I was
told that volvo ABS modules are cheaper than Perdana's.

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discusman

Posted 15 April 2005 - 11:10 PM

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hi new kelisa

mine is a 1997 V70 T5...

i completely have no idea on the pricing of a new ABS- maybe others can shed
light...i'll check around mysefl too.....

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 10:24 AM

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discusman, have you checked with glock19? May be a worthwhile thing to do
& he may be able to help you. My Ipoh mechanic said that the module can be
repaired but you'll need special equipment to open the unit. Good luck.

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discusman

Posted 16 April 2005 - 11:16 AM

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yes cap...
i was hoping he will drop by this topic.
if not, i will email him personally. thanks.

If the original module can be repaired, that will be a plus point.

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 08:49 PM

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Hi discusman,

I strongly suggest that you call glock because he is the expert and I have
seen it before. So call him.

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glock19

Posted 18 April 2005 - 03:35 PM

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Hi All,
I guess everyone is waiting for some move from my side on this topic. A
bit of history, I started looking into this ABS issue when I got the 850
and since the fault exist, I went high and low looking for some rebuilt
and even enquired about new units. With the exhorbitant price tag
attached to the new unit and the doubts of have local rebuilt (just like
Discusman), I went about acquiring damaged units to work on. My present
mechanic was kind and generous enough to me for letting me operate on some.

Initial work was tedious and damaged were done on the casing and the board
in my quest to repair them. Success finally came and I was the first to
try out my own rebuilt. The ABS lamp went of a few metres after rolling of
the garage but I couldnít bring myself to let the car skid. My MICHELINS
are new and road was dry, so have to wait till Iím in a cemented car park
(wet ones should be nice). Eventually before I could test it out, I
repaired a few for my mechanic and he reported that the test were
positive, so it never occurred to me to try it out myself, pity the car
too :D

So far, Iíve repaired more than 10 pcs, some are the 850R (With TRACS-10
solenoids) and some with 8 solenoids (I think the newer V/S series). Ours
is the 6 solenoids type. Apart from my mechanic here, I have another
customer in Cheras, KL whoís sending me the ABS module every alternate
week. So far, my record has been good. In terms of pricing, I charge the
KL guy twice of what I get here in Penang, there are some reasons to it as
I need to test it and then post it during my working hours, so a bit
inconvenient for me. Moreover, my mechanic has been a great help and he
supplied some units for spare parts too.

Both of these guys do not Ďchaseí me too much and thus I can spread the
repair time over 3~4 days, which is good for me. For instances, I get the
part in the evening after work, do my own things, family and by 9pm Iíll
start opening the part up. 3 hours I would have the thing cleaned after
the Ďoperationí and Iíll call it a night. The next day after work, Iíll do
the repairs and try to finish before midnight so that I can set the
sealing epoxy overnight, if not, the epoxy will take another evening. So 3
days for me to wrap it up (at the most) in good time.

In terms of manhours, thatís nearly a one day shift for me. So Iím
actually not slaughtering them (if they donít push me for delivery) and
since they give me a regular supply of work, itíll do good to my wallet
also. As I donít do dismantling or installing for their customers, thatíll
save me some work & time too.

Discusman, in your case, Iíll settle for half of what the mechanic charges
you (including fixing) but youíll have to down your car for the weekend.
Letís say on Friday night, I take it out (please ensure your engine is
cool), open and clean on Friday itself. Saturday full day on it and on
Sunday, Iíll have it fixed back into your car by noon/evening (depends on
Church service). Actually according to some (even mechanics), the car can
be driven without the ABS but I havenít tried it before. One thing
different from getting it from the shop is that, youíll be getting
somebody else ABS and yours will be passed to another (exchange basis) but
for me, youíll get back your own but repaired. However they have it ready
and you donít need to down your car. Again this depends on whether you
want to drive without the ABS.

For others (those outstation guys), you can send me the unit through
POSLAJU (itís safe- donít worry) and Iíll return you the same way. Please
include a cheque with the unit. If it doesnít work, you can expect a full
refund including the postage.
If you want it repaired for free, please send two units and youíll get one
back, meaning Ė Iím willing to buy one off you as I might need the spare
parts sometimes. Anyone who come across these (damaged ones) are also
encourage to approach me.

Okay, so much for sales talk. Better stop here before the Admin cy tint aHi All,
I guess everyone is waiting for some move from my side on this topic. A
bit of history, I started looking into this ABS issue when I got the 850
and since the fault exist, I went high and low looking for some rebuilt
and even enquired about new units. With the exhorbitant price tag
attached to the new unit and the doubts of have local rebuilt (just like
Discusman), I went about acquiring damaged units to work on. My present
mechanic was kind and generous enough to me for letting me operate on some.

Initial work was tedious and damaged were done on the casing and the board
in my quest to repair them. Success finally came and I was the first to
try out my own rebuilt. The ABS lamp went of a few metres after rolling of
the garage but I couldnít bring myself to let the car skid. My MICHELINS
are new and road was dry, so have to wait till Iím in a cemented car park
(wet ones should be nice). Eventually before I could test it out, I
repaired a few for my mechanic and he reported that the test were
positive, so it never occurred to me to try it out myself, pity the car
too :D

So far, Iíve repaired more than 10 pcs, some are the 850R (With TRACS-10
solenoids) and some with 8 solenoids (I think the newer V/S series). Ours
is the 6 solenoids type. Apart from my mechanic here, I have an

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discusman

Posted 18 April 2005 - 08:25 PM

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glock---i am convinced

i will email you personally. wait for it!

Guys- thanks for your comments and suggestions!

Big Smile

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glock19

Posted 21 April 2005 - 05:59 PM

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Got a used unit from the Potong shop today, was with Kenari1 and Kenari2
(hehehe), so I might be able to do it faster for you on an exchange basis
but give me some time to work on it first. It looks good but I still need
to go to the entire procedure to be sure.

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kaminski

Posted 21 April 2005 - 06:25 PM

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Maybe we should all send Glock to the ABS remanufacturers conference in
Birmingham UK...saw an advert for it in the UK press last week!
Big Smile