[gregy]

That may be true, but so far in terms of hill climbing ability my City
rocks :) Having the best torque band throughout the climb is the key. Not
many auto cars below 2 litres are able to keep up with my 1.5A CVT up
Genting, I kid you not! Of course, I also have uprated 205/45/17 rubbers
so cornering wise it's quite a breeze. Anyhow will have a go with my
friend's Swift and report back here.

Cheers.

[rtcw]

Dear all experts, I am new here and planning to buy the first car in my
life, I am considering City Vtec…However, I just found out that swift is
currently having a very good promotion.It’s a very nice car & now is even
cheaper than City..I wish to gather some info. from u all before deciding…

1) How’s the fuel consumption of Swift?
2) Is swift easy to find spare parts? Is the parts expensive?
3) Suzuki is not well known here like Honda & Toyota, so I am worry
about it’s quality because not many beachmark in Malaysia. Anyone know
about that? Hopefully some masters who own the new swift now can
contribute some info. to me..ie. whether any problems when driving the
cars.. noisy sound etc..
4) I just test drive a swift last Sunday, when I step down after
test drive, some funny smell from the car, the smell is like after we
make emergency stop i.e. “jam brake”..anyone experienced that before? is
the problem rectified?

Any other info. I should consider in purchasing a new vehicle? I have
compared the spec on brochure from both Swift & City Vtec.. Vtec seems
more powerful.. Other spec seems similar except the size.. hehe actually
I don’t really know what those terms means…e.g. torque, compression
ratio, gear ratio…etc hopefully some sin ful sss here can help abit…

Thanks in advance

[titanium]

gregy, i was referring to cornering ability...

[gameover]

rtcw, try test driving both the Swift and the others back to back. I did, found the City VTEC to be
much more responsive and powerful pretty much at all engine RPMs compared to the Swift. Sad to
say however that the City's handling simply can't match the Swift so I crossed the City off my list

[natoct]

titanum, city has to better cornering performance bcoz u can use cvt and
steermatic... no way swift can be better than city.

Last time when I also consider this 3 cars... I found swift is too small
for my family, i don know how to put in my baby chair into the car. Vios
is normal, city has huge space for whole family luggages.

[Wisely]

maybe can consider smart forfour this time, since cycle & carriage is
giving huge discount for this 1.5L varient.

check with nearest C&C dealer.
cheers...

[Chewbacca]

As a city owner i have to say its a pretty good car whcih is not
problematic. The reason i chose city vtec is because its powerful, high
tech, spacious and has a huge 500litre boot which is bigger than most
2liter cars plus the seating is quite high which is advantageous for city
traffic and the FC is good. My gripes with city is that theres plenty of
road & wind noise and the car's cornering is not so good with plenty of
body roll at high speeds.

I like the swift as its value for money and CBU jap. But not sure about
resale value. The compactness of the car is not acceptable for me as the
main family car but if u r single or its ur 2nd car then i say go for it!

Vios is ok. That pretty much sums it up... very conventional and its does
not have much over the other 2 cars other than wearing a tyoyota badge.
Please note the complaints of the vios in the toyota forum as i cant
comment not being an owner. 1 other bad point... service by UMW sucks...

[titanium]

natoct,

I'm not going to continue bragging on ability of swift handling the
corners furthermore as it will be a never ending debate....
anyway one man's meat another man's poison...
::peace::

[HC2iVTEC]

Handling is a very subjective thing. Different drivers have different
perception about handling.

Some think that because a car grips very well in corners, then it's good
handling.

Others think that because the car corners flatly without much body roll,
then it's good handling.

Still, others think that a combination of less body roll, grip through
corners, balance of understeer / oversteer, going where the steering wheel
is pointed, level of adjustability via throttle and steering input through
corners is great handling. I'm in this group.

[seantang]

Any car handles well when its driver knows how to handle the car. That's it.

Any car can handle well if the driver knows where it's going and how to
coax the car to get there. It doesn't need to roll or not roll, have lots
of grip through corners (you just need to know how much grip it has and
when/where it is), doesn't need a balance of understeer/oversteer (you just
need to know where it's going to steer to, irregardless of whether it gets
there via under or oversteering), nor does a good handling car need to go
where the steering is pointed. It just needs to go where the driver planned
to place it in the first place.

I'm in this group.

If you're someone who needs every car to react the same way before he can
drive fast, then the car's handling you - not vice versa.