[Chips]

The Honda CVT doesn't require manual changing, so the issue of the
housewife changing gears is irrelevant. Besides, the large number of
gears is just to give a much better spread for a more practical torque
curve.

But I do agree that 7 speeds is a bit crazy and I remember how I was
shifting so much in manual mode with the Punto. Personally, I am not a
fan of these tiptronic systems though I respect them for mechanical
efficiency and they are good for winding roads.

[RyanH]

Check out Honda City at www.honda.net.my....should be up fully by tomorrow.

[USRX8]

For you all information, the City CVT is different from other continental
cars wat i think.First of all, it is a semiauto trasmission come with
P,R,N,D,S,L. You only can activate the 7Speed MANUAL when u swith to D or
S. If you swith to L, It cant work. There is a indicator light with
digital number show the wat gear u use when u swith to Manual. When u
swith to D, u hv to press the 7speed button then u hv to press the +
button instead to shift the gear sticks . I think this is the first car i
saw that the MANUAL swith is on the sterring. It is very easy for us to
change the gear up or down just like we press + or - on the radio to get
the channel with a finger both side either left or right. Wat i mean is ,
there are 2 button on the sterring, u can either press the gear up or down
with u left hand or right hand with same button while u are driving with
one hand. SO , if u drive with left hand , u just press the up to this
symbol + to increase the gear or press down to this symbol - to descrease
the gear.

[baldi]

it looks like altis

[parimus]

small version of altis.

[MrNiceGuy]

Correct me if I'm wrong. The city comes with 7 SPEED MODE and NOT 7 gears.
Gears can only give a fixed set of ratios between input and output shafts,
physical 7 sets of gears. CVT using pulleys, wheels, and/or cones that can
transmit drive at any radius thus offering infinitely variable "gear"
ratios.But physically there's only 2 pulleys that do the job.Front and
rear pulleys where the pulleys can go in and out at the opposite direction
to give a different "gear" ratios. Ehmm.. it's kindda hard to explain
without a picture

[luku]

has anyone notice that both jazz/city don't have a temperature gauge -
is this a good idea at all ?

[SohcVtec]

Chips, my point was that the 'housewife' will probably NEVER use any of
the 7 speeds bcoz it won't make much of a differnce to them. They probably
drive the car in the 1 single speed which they feel comfortable at. And
the fuel consumption which was stated on paper was probably on one of the
gear ratios which were the lowest. so switching between speeds might not
give you the manufacturer's fuel consumption figures.

USRX8,
yeah we know that already.. thanks

Mr Niceguy
you are 100% right. no gears. only pulleys. a simple way to look at it wud
be to equate the CVT box to say a bicycle gear. where u manually change
the diameter of the gear u want to use.. except in the car.. its
automatically ECU controled at certain speeds.

[Streamer]

Whooooooaaaa... let's slow down a little here... you guys are getting too
technical and I'm getting confused already.

Is 7 Speed = 7 Gears?

Do you really feel 6 upshifts up to the final ratio?

[Streamer]

Did you guys see Toyota's Vios ad today?

It's almost like the City ad which featured the side front portion of the
car. Looks like it's gonna be a head on ad battle between City and Vios!

Both almost looked almost the same with their high ceiling and short nose
& boot.

But personally.. I would go for the Honda, b'coz of the power plant...
iDSI, 7 speed CVT, steertronic... more high tech... Toyota engine still
the same VVTi.

Given a choice... I'd pick Jazz any day... so cute... just like a mini
version of Stream. Perhaps gonna have one if I can afford it. Then in my
garage I would have a big Stream and a 'small Stream'... hehehehee.