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jktlee

Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:46 PM

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Hi Kcng,

I would have disagree if DSG gearbox not in Japanese car yet is shit. Japanese car is good at make things cheaper than continental car. Everything today what Japanese car has has already been there in Continental car year before.

Hence Japanese have not found a way to copy DSG gearbox yet. They may say they don't need it. Only time will tell. Even today, Volvo and Ford and BMW is already starting to use twin clutch gearbox.

Let me try to justify my answer with history

In 1997
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My VW vento comes with the following Price $99,500
a) Recaro seat
cool.gif 4 airbag (2 font + 2 side)
c) antiroll bar for front+rear
d) Full ABS spec
e) tinted glass all 4 sides
f) radio antena integrated into rear windscreen
g) Mileage meter, digital
h) 15" steel rims. tyres made in Germany
i) Insert key into key hole and open and hold it. All 4 windows will come down automatically.
j) Lock the car and hole it. All 4 windows will up automatically.

Honda Civic (Kah Motor) full spec price about $90,00
a) full spec with lots of local stuff
b)radio antena
c) etc.

today
====
Item 1 :Digital odometer Cars like Vios, Myvi, Honda City start to use odometer in digtal. Wah...is such a important new feature in Japanese car where I have been looking my car with odometer in digital since 1997.

Item 2: Anti-Dazzle Rear View mirror. Again already have since my Bora in 2001. Today in Japanese car, is it a new feature if there is.

item 3: ESP already there since 2001 today in Japanese car only for high model like 1.8 Altis, 2.5 Camry, 2.4 Accord and etc... Already available since Polo the smallest car in VW family.


jktlee
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QUOTE (kcng @ Feb 25 2013, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
haha...

in malaysia... they only know 2 brand...

honda and toyota...
generally their guideline or standard is what that is being offered by honda and toyota...
if toyota did not use DSG, it means that DSG is shit... cuz to them, if it is good, it will be in a toyota... haha..

maybe what u should say between a V6 and 1.4 TSI should be engine refinement instead of driving dynamics...
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cuz a V6 or an inline 6 engine is so so much smoother compared to an inline 4....
heck even the perdana v6 engine feels so smooth compared to my TSI...
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but step inside the cabin is heaven and earth different la...

as for FC, i personally feel that my VW has better FC then the civic 2.0...
turbo nowadays is so so different from the turbo of yester-years... but unfortunately ppl mentality/thinking is still the same...
turbo = fuel guzzlers...

hahaa..
lets just see how much advancement the automotive world will have from now on and also how the market in malaysia will go next...


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williekan

Posted 27 February 2013 - 12:16 AM

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QUOTE (jktlee @ Feb 26 2013, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Kcng,

I would have disagree if DSG gearbox not in Japanese car yet is shit. Japanese car is good at make things cheaper than continental car. Everything today what Japanese car has has already been there in Continental car year before.

Hence Japanese have not found a way to copy DSG gearbox yet. They may say they don't need it. Only time will tell. Even today, Volvo and Ford and BMW is already starting to use twin clutch gearbox.

Let me try to justify my answer with history

In 1997
======
My VW vento comes with the following Price $99,500
a) Recaro seat
cool.gif 4 airbag (2 font + 2 side)
c) antiroll bar for front+rear
d) Full ABS spec
e) tinted glass all 4 sides
f) radio antena integrated into rear windscreen
g) Mileage meter, digital
h) 15" steel rims. tyres made in Germany
i) Insert key into key hole and open and hold it. All 4 windows will come down automatically.
j) Lock the car and hole it. All 4 windows will up automatically.

Honda Civic (Kah Motor) full spec price about $90,00
a) full spec with lots of local stuff
b)radio antena
c) etc.

today
====
Item 1 :Digital odometer Cars like Vios, Myvi, Honda City start to use odometer in digtal. Wah...is such a important new feature in Japanese car where I have been looking my car with odometer in digital since 1997.

Item 2: Anti-Dazzle Rear View mirror. Again already have since my Bora in 2001. Today in Japanese car, is it a new feature if there is.

item 3: ESP already there since 2001 today in Japanese car only for high model like 1.8 Altis, 2.5 Camry, 2.4 Accord and etc... Already available since Polo the smallest car in VW family.


jktlee
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I don't think that even the highest spec camry has VSC. which is a big mistake by toyota malaysia!!!

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kcng

Posted 27 February 2013 - 10:17 AM

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QUOTE (jktlee @ Feb 26 2013, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Kcng,

I would have disagree if DSG gearbox not in Japanese car yet is shit. Japanese car is good at make things cheaper than continental car. Everything today what Japanese car has has already been there in Continental car year before.

Hence Japanese have not found a way to copy DSG gearbox yet. They may say they don't need it. Only time will tell. Even today, Volvo and Ford and BMW is already starting to use twin clutch gearbox.

Let me try to justify my answer with history

In 1997
======
My VW vento comes with the following Price $99,500
a) Recaro seat
cool.gif 4 airbag (2 font + 2 side)
c) antiroll bar for front+rear
d) Full ABS spec
e) tinted glass all 4 sides
f) radio antena integrated into rear windscreen
g) Mileage meter, digital
h) 15" steel rims. tyres made in Germany
i) Insert key into key hole and open and hold it. All 4 windows will come down automatically.
j) Lock the car and hole it. All 4 windows will up automatically.

Honda Civic (Kah Motor) full spec price about $90,00
a) full spec with lots of local stuff
b)radio antena
c) etc.

today
====
Item 1 :Digital odometer Cars like Vios, Myvi, Honda City start to use odometer in digtal. Wah...is such a important new feature in Japanese car where I have been looking my car with odometer in digital since 1997.

Item 2: Anti-Dazzle Rear View mirror. Again already have since my Bora in 2001. Today in Japanese car, is it a new feature if there is.

item 3: ESP already there since 2001 today in Japanese car only for high model like 1.8 Altis, 2.5 Camry, 2.4 Accord and etc... Already available since Polo the smallest car in VW family.


jktlee
jktlee


hahaha
my statement is just a figure of speech bro...

because that is the general consensus among car buyers in malaysia..
for every 1 person that knows about what they are buying, there will be 10-20 that is totally clueless about what is DSG bla bla bla...
so they will fall back to what toyota and honda has to offer...
hence the sentence, if toyota and honda did not offer it, it is not good as their absolute standard for car is what toyota and honda offers...

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