Diesel Is Greener Than Hybrid!
#1
Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:37 PM
But, but before you say so, check this out. Apple to apple comparison, diesel is in fact greener than hyrid using Porsche Cayenne as a good example:-
http://www.porsche.c...models/cayenne/
i. Cayenne S Hybrid
Layout / number of cylinders 6
Displacement 2,995 cm³
Engine layout Front
Power Combustion engine: 245 kW (333 hp) Electric machine: 34 kW (47 hp)Total system:279 kW (380 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) Combustion engine: 440 Nm Electric machine: 300 Nm Total system: 580 Nm
at rpm Combustion engine: 3,000 - 5,250 1/min Electric machine: < 1,150 1/min Total system: 1,000 1/min
Compression ratio 10.5 : 1
Top speed 242 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 6.5 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 16.5 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 8.2
CO2 emissions in g/km 193
ii. Cayenne Diesel
Layout / number of cylinders 6
Displacement 2,967cm³
Engine layout Front
Power 180 kW (245 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) 550 Nm
at rpm 1.750 - 2.750 1/min
Compression ratio 16.8 : 1
Top speed 220 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 7.6 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 20.0 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 7.2
CO2 emissions in g/km 189
iii. Cayenne S (Petrol)
Layout / number of cylinders 8
Displacement 4,806 cm³
Engine layout Front
Power 294 kW (400 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) 500 Nm
at rpm 3.500 1/min
Top speed 258 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 5.9 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 13.9 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 10.5
CO2 emissions in g/km 245
Cayenne Diesel consume least fuel and produce least CO2 compares with Cayenne Petrol and Hybrid!
Haven't take into account that production and disposure of hybrid batteries polute the environmental futher.
Ok, our local diesel quality screw up, Porsche Diesel probably irrelevant here.
#2
Posted 10 April 2012 - 05:24 PM
Opss, check this out:-
http://www.nextgreen.../best-mpg-cars/
Top eco friendly car all running on DIESEL!
Lu tanya itu Apanama kereta lah, cannot pakai diesel so don't let other to pakai diesel. Die die still banging head on local made hybrid till CEO or MD also surrender heard resigned already
Ok, Apanama kereta lu menang, our local diesel takdabolehpakai lah.
#3
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:15 PM
#4
Posted 12 May 2012 - 05:31 PM
But, but before you say so, check this out. Apple to apple comparison, diesel is in fact greener than hyrid using Porsche Cayenne as a good example:-
http://www.porsche.c...models/cayenne/
i. Cayenne S Hybrid
Layout / number of cylinders 6
Displacement 2,995 cm³
Engine layout Front
Power Combustion engine: 245 kW (333 hp) Electric machine: 34 kW (47 hp)Total system:279 kW (380 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) Combustion engine: 440 Nm Electric machine: 300 Nm Total system: 580 Nm
at rpm Combustion engine: 3,000 - 5,250 1/min Electric machine: < 1,150 1/min Total system: 1,000 1/min
Compression ratio 10.5 : 1
Top speed 242 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 6.5 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 16.5 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 8.2
CO2 emissions in g/km 193
ii. Cayenne Diesel
Layout / number of cylinders 6
Displacement 2,967cm³
Engine layout Front
Power 180 kW (245 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) 550 Nm
at rpm 1.750 - 2.750 1/min
Compression ratio 16.8 : 1
Top speed 220 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 7.6 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 20.0 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 7.2
CO2 emissions in g/km 189
iii. Cayenne S (Petrol)
Layout / number of cylinders 8
Displacement 4,806 cm³
Engine layout Front
Power 294 kW (400 hp)
Max. torque (Nm) 500 Nm
at rpm 3.500 1/min
Top speed 258 km/h
Acceleration from 0 - 100 km/h 5.9 s
Acceleration from 0 - 160 kmh 13.9 s
Fuel consumption Tiptronic S
Combined in l/100 km 10.5
CO2 emissions in g/km 245
Cayenne Diesel consume least fuel and produce least CO2 compares with Cayenne Petrol and Hybrid!
Haven't take into account that production and disposure of hybrid batteries polute the environmental futher.
Ok, our local diesel quality screw up, Porsche Diesel probably irrelevant here.
diesel hibrid better
#5
Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:37 PM
Lagi saving if with hybrid, 100% diesel lagi tak cukup for you? at only less than 15Cts (I assumed) for your more than 2 tons "Gajah size" 4WD?
Cheers!
#6
Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:53 PM
#7
Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:10 PM
Cheers!
15 cents when really light footed. you and me also same, if 5 cents also no point if no power. ha ha ha
read some where merz come out with diesel hibrid, other brand not sure.. but in our land can dream only. sedan diesel only left 320d saja, at that price if buy not for economy.
#8
Posted 13 May 2012 - 12:52 AM
read some where merz come out with diesel hibrid, other brand not sure.. but in our land can dream only. sedan diesel only left 320d saja, at that price if buy not for economy.
mine heavy footed still less than 15cts!!!
#9
Posted 13 May 2012 - 01:31 AM
yours lighter a few hundred kilo , 4 piston and lower cc .. mine sure cannot beat 15 cts
if want must cabut spare tyre, all door and bonnet.. ha ha ha
#10
Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:06 PM
read some where merz come out with diesel hibrid, other brand not sure.. but in our land can dream only. sedan diesel only left 320d saja, at that price if buy not for economy.
You can save half of your money by buying Focus TDCi Sedan. The cheapest brand new diesel car we can buy in bolehland. Well, if still available.... Coz you wont get diesel for the latest Ford Focus.