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#11
Rachu

Posted 17 February 2004 - 02:56 PM

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Dear All,

First let me apologize for my mistake in identifying the trye brand. My
bust tyre actually is Sliverstone SQ 178 and not Sime. They are too
manay out there with deferent categories for 4x4. I am not welly sure
when it started to bust. At first, I am drive some off-road in the
construction site, a round 15-25 km/h and then I hit the highway at 110
km/h and then my Kembara feel unstable and load noise can be hear in the
tyre rotation. I stop at the check the tyre had bust and cut a hole
around 3-4" long.

For one year driving Kembara at site, the amount of money to repair tyre
due to nail, it alreay can buy a new tyre. 10 out of 7 kenang nail when
I went in construction site!

I also been thinking to use nail resistance tyre. And wonder how good it
is? But still need a highway comfort. I always drive KL-JB or KL-
Penang. And then to site!

Let hope the Bridgestone can get me the value for money! 4 tyres cost RM
920 is bit more for me!



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Posted 17 February 2004 - 03:09 PM

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continuing from my previous message....

IMHO, using new tyres (unused spare) with an already used one will cause
bumpy rides due to different mileage of each tyres.

Has anyone tried that? Care to share your experience?

However, I do hear ppl rotating between the front and rear pairs of tyres.
That would make the spares really a spare and used only during emergency,
which is a waste as someone in this forum has once said that a tyre could
only last 5 years the most from the production date no matter if it has
been used during its entire life.

Care to share your opinion on this too? I would love to rotate my spare
tyre, given a choice, but have to find out what the consequences will be
first la....




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annel82

Posted 17 February 2004 - 03:23 PM

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Rachu!

Wah! You truly use your Kembara for off-roading!

Anyhow, i think my stock Sime is very strong! Last time i was going
through bends at about 70km/hr which somehow require more focus on the
steering as the bends was narrow & require zig-zagging movement.

Suddenly i saw a stone, with SHARP edges on top! I quickly look at my left
lane & there's a car too so without any space to avoid & surely no fooling
around in that well-known scary bend, i just let my front right tyre hit
the stone with a slight expectation of... OMG... already burst???

Nope! Until now, the tyre seems to go quite fine! Hardly scratches! Big Smile

Please share your review on the ride with your new tyre!

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Rachu

Posted 17 February 2004 - 05:40 PM

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Annel,
No choice, can't afford a Pajero or Landcruise. A lot people in
construction trusted the Kembara. However, many people get stuck in the
mud and other 4x4 come to rescue. Please don't compare our RM50K baby
with those RM250K monster! Thier one tyre is more expense than 4 of our
tyre!

Micer
Currently, I am running around with three 47k mileage tire and one brand
new tyre (Spare Sliverstone SQ178). Can't feel much vabrition because I
don't dare to hit 110 km/h for this few days. However, I going to
Malacca this Thursday and believe gonna hit that speed and site as well.

No time to go and install my new Bridgstone!

Give you the review next week!

Smile

By the way, I check the Bridgstones Australia website and found out that
their Bridgestone tyre is more expense than here. It cost $A 227 per
piece. But their Terious is much cheaper than our! A bit confuse here?
Big Smile

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Boink

Posted 17 February 2004 - 09:27 PM

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Coldplay - Your welcome. Just make sure you maintian rotation pattern,
some shops give differing advice.

Micer - No probs. Read tha manual, it costs quite a bit.

Annel - Heh... you not going to say anything about 17"....?

Ranchu - Hey just wanted to say how lucky you were to have discovered the
slit/cut in your tire WITHOUT having to experience a blowout.
In your case, I think it would be unfair to xpect more from any tire as
you do go to constructions sites which have nails, rods, steel bits and
all those things that love to cut ruber to pieces.

Am just glad you stopped before having a blow out.

Finally, Rachu - Bridgestone Dueller H/T or A/T. Good tires, esp from
local bridgestone dealer. :)


Many Regards,

Boink Boink

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annel82

Posted 17 February 2004 - 10:02 PM

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Rachu!

No! No, don't take me wrong! Kembara is indeed useful for off-road
purpose. What i mean is that tyre might want to be in your consideration
as we are offered with different stock tyre by P2 with different features
& purpose.

In construction site, you might require a harder type tyre. Sime for
example as i've experience myself. Bridgestone... Check this link out for
better review!

http://www.1010tires...Dueler_HT_(D689)_tires.html
http://www.1010tires...Dueler_HL_(D683)_tires.html

Personaly by seeing the tyre thread added with others' overall review, the
HL sound promising, road type but if i were to go in the site which might
have sharp hazard, the HT looks better.

Can't wait for tyre review! Anyone have anything to share on new tyre? Smile

Yeah, i think thats why if our car more expensive than other, but our
petrol bills is lower. Give & take!



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Rachu

Posted 17 February 2004 - 10:27 PM

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annel82,
I agree with you about the tyre selection. But for my situation, both
highway and terrian is required. Chosing BS Dueler HT or GY Wrangler AT
is the only choice.

I always believe that if you want a serious/heavy off road vehical,
please go for big cc and diesel turbo engine and that you don't worry
about getting stuck and fuel economy. However, Kembara fuel economy can
considered one of the best in the mini 4WD segment. With the amount
money that we are paying, it is value for money!

Big Smile

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Micer

Posted 18 February 2004 - 11:40 AM

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My tyre experience....

Tyres: Goodyear Wrangler HP
Mileage: 2300km

I had been busy testing the tyres for off-road capabilities on an ad-hoc
basis.

On one occasion, upon checking the tyres, I found a 1-inch screw stuck
diagonally into my RHS front tyre. At least ˝ an inch has gone in. Pulled
it out and checked for leaks. Nothing except for a tiny mark left by the
screw. A check with a guy at the accessory shop revealed that the tyre
surface of Wrangler HP was at least ˝ an inch thick!!! At least that was
the answer given to me. Should I get a second opinion from a tyre shop?

Negotiating muddy surface.

Tried a few times going slowly over muddy surfaces. No skidding / tyre-get-
stuck experience. Therefore, need not activate CDL. I guess, they weren't
muddy enough. So far, my CDL has not been tested. However, pebbles stuck
by the muds along my way out of the country side terrain was annoying.
They kept hitting the underside of my Kembara's body. Had to go slow to
minimise the impact.

Tyre noise is minimal even going at hi-speed. It must be noted however
that the noise caused by the wind hitting the door visors are much more
annoying.

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annel82

Posted 18 February 2004 - 08:27 PM

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25km more & my Kembara will hit its mileage of 50,000km!

Micer!

Yeah, if i know more earlier, i would have get myself the G.Wrangler HP
tyre from P2 as i can expect it to perform better on road like what you
have reviewed especially minimal tyre noise. A quick look at the tyre
thread can simply predict the tyre to be more on road-highway tyre. It has
straight groove which show sign of on-road water channeling & the usual
look, economical road type pattern.

I have no experience with such road-biased tyre however i can share the
off-road biased Sime Alpina vs old performance Falken Ziex 326 tyre.

Alpina less grippy, so hard breaking need extra attention as don't slam
the break to stop the car down. Slow the car down before stopping the car
by applying certain pressure on the break pedal 1st & as the car slower,
then apply more. In other word, gradually step the break harder when the
car become slower when emergency breaking. As for me, i can use gear
breaking as well as i'm using MT. & please be alert on when to remove the
break when we need to avoid (Human ABS?)!

On the other hand, Alpina good for off-road & provide better warning (tyre
screeching) when it couldn't cope up anymore with the driving & road
condition.

Ziex 326 VERY grippy - a modest track tyre & can cope up well with hard
breaking & limits but seems unfavourable for a tall mini SUV like
Kembara... Too sticky that when attacking corner out of the limit of this
tall SUV's centre of gravity... *Goleng-goleng~* Big Smile

As for tyre noise, believe me Alpina seems more quieter!

So the HP give the most balance performance, almost anywhere.

As for the pebbles stuck by the muds... Both tyre the same!

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Micer

Posted 19 February 2004 - 11:31 AM

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Thanks.

Big Smile

It must be noted however, that I have not tried any other sets of tyres.
So, can't really judge the tyre road noise well without comparison. But
one thing for sure is that the door visor is really noisy at hi speed.

Bearable though. Smile