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#21
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Posted 28 February 2012 - 06:17 PM

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QUOTE (jonlsl @ Feb 27 2012, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If all elsefails you can choose to use OC2.0 as its good especially for white car. I presume you did read my review on it on my white car.

I hope DG will work well as well as the price and easy of application is a +++++ point. Even though it may not last as long as OC2.0, its so easy to reapply.

So will do my test this weekend and lest let you guys know. But you would have to wait for another 2 weeks as this weekend is to apply and another 1-2weeks for results to show.

So all those very excited and itchy cannot wait, go and try first lah only RM113 bucks. That is only a price of a good polish. Lagi some people got 3-5 different polish. For me if I cannot tahan and within my budget I always buy and try.

For those on the fence then have to wait loh. Lagi you guys don't come and ask me:

"Eh so how ah the water marks?" Answer is I don't know. The car is metallic gold and is a light colour so cannot see. My place also the acid rain also not as power as Klang Valley and other places. All I can tell you most probably is how easily the water marks come off if I see any. I will be testting primarily:

1. Durability
2. Water beading
3. Water sheeting (when using hose to sheet water to dry car)
4. Shine
5. Stain removal/tar if I find any


Bro...

Due to white car...release properties is my main concern then is slick + gloss only ...

I check mycarforum ...which some ppl said can layer so which have chance some stuff can stick to paint after it cure ...

BR


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Posted 28 February 2012 - 10:27 PM

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QUOTE (drivemax @ Feb 28 2012, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bro...

Due to white car...release properties is my main concern then is slick + gloss only ...

I check mycarforum ...which some ppl said can layer so which have chance some stuff can stick to paint after it cure ...

BR


With regards to DG nano apply applying it is slick and glossy. Release properties I don't know yet as i have not tested. OC2.0 Is not slick nor is it glossy. It just looks like freshly painted car and feels like freshly painted car. So in this aspect DG nano will ful fill your requirements.

"which some ppl said can layer so which have chance some stuff can stick to paint after it cure ..." I don't undertsand what you are trying to say. Can you please reword/rephrase the sentence? If your english not so good can some other bro in the forum help out with repharsing of explain to me what is trying to be said.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 02:58 AM

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QUOTE (jonlsl @ Feb 28 2012, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
With regards to DG nano apply applying it is slick and glossy. Release properties I don't know yet as i have not tested. OC2.0 Is not slick nor is it glossy. It just looks like freshly painted car and feels like freshly painted car. So in this aspect DG nano will ful fill your requirements.

"which some ppl said can layer so which have chance some stuff can stick to paint after it cure ..." I don't undertsand what you are trying to say. Can you please reword/rephrase the sentence? If your english not so good can some other bro in the forum help out with repharsing of explain to me what is trying to be said.


Sorry...for my kacang putih english ....too much overnight coffee... smile_dead.gif

http://www.mycarforu...o...t&p=3965354

Does it mean this coating can be layer? Or Wax/Sealant able to stick the coating?

As i remember that OC cannot be layer 1st it cure..it will repel anything

I think will need to wait bro jonlsl to do some testing then will know the result...

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:39 AM

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QUOTE (drivemax @ Feb 29 2012, 02:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry...for my kacang putih english ....too much overnight coffee... smile_dead.gif

http://www.mycarforu...o...t&p=3965354

Does it mean this coating can be layer? Or Wax/Sealant able to stick the coating?

As i remember that OC cannot be layer 1st it cure..it will repel anything

I think will need to wait bro jonlsl to do some testing then will know the result...

BR


Oh like that ah, as far from what I know, DG nano can be layered (from what i know means from what i have read not my testing as I haven't tested lah). Meaning it is possible to layer upon itself. I.E. you can put 1 layer of DG nano then a week later put another layer of DG nano. Or you can top the DG nano off with carnauba wax or carnauba spray wax or some other LSP but not much has been documented about DG nano as i think its not officially released in the US.

So in my testing I will leave Dg nano without and topper first for a few weeks. Then I might do another test with fresh coat of DG nano with carnauba topper or DG AW after car wash.

Compared to OC2.0. It cannot be layered upon its self (actually can layer slightly if you know how to but if you get too much it will become cloudy or streak so its tricky and must be done just after OC2.0 flashes roughly about 5min). That means once flashed and cured, the 2nd coat of OC2.0 you apply will not stick to the 1st coat of OC2.0. Thus is cannot be layered. Also if you decide to put wax or some other LSP on top of OC2.0 it will not really "stick" well and can be easily removed just by washing. But this has its good point as it can help reduce water spotting by using an LSP and the LSP gets washed away along with the water spots.

When some people refer to some sealant or wax cannot be layered is because it either has some light abrasives or chemical cleaners which will remove the previous layer thus unable to layer it. That is why some LSP claim to have no abrasives nor any cleaners so you can layer them.

DG nano is best applied on a cool dry car sections at a time in small circles, up & down, right to left motion with light pressure (to ensure even coverage) and work the product until it flashes, using a fine finishing MF cloth cut in to 4"x4" squares. Do not use long or big right to left, and big circular motions like applying carnauba wax like some people do. Highly recommended to NOT use a foam applicator pad (same also with OC2.0 and most clear liquid coatings). Then once flashed use a new clean finishing MF cloth cut into 4"x4" square to buff. Then you are done. As always prep the car properly with:

1. wash
2. clay
3. polish
4. strong concentrated wash (to remove all polishing oils)
5. IPA wipe down (optional) Don't need to if your strong concentrated wash can remove all polishing oils.
6. DG Nano

A little goes along way so don't over saturate the MF cloth when applying. As its wasting product as it also flashes very quickly in our weather.

As with all Nano Particle products best to wear gloves. Not sure if that will help but better than nothing.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:10 AM

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Bron jonlsl, let me know if the MF towel hardens or the fiber tips gets encrusted. Just want to know...

Sometimes layering does not build up surface thickness but actually filling in the unfilled areas of the previous LSP/coating application - possibly due to buffing or uneven coverage. A lot of people has got that feeling of adding additional thickness when in fact it does not. Some say increasing the density of the LSP applied... All unknown until proven scientifically. Interesting article here:
Thickness of wax layers? - Detailing World

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 11:34 AM

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QUOTE (eohl79 @ Feb 29 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bron jonlsl, let me know if the MF towel hardens or the fiber tips gets encrusted. Just want to know...

Sometimes layering does not build up surface thickness but actually filling in the unfilled areas of the previous LSP/coating application - possibly due to buffing or uneven coverage. A lot of people has got that feeling of adding additional thickness when in fact it does not. Some say increasing the density of the LSP applied... All unknown until proven scientifically. Interesting article here:
Thickness of wax layers? - Detailing World


Yah true. Layering generally ensure proper coverage rather than adds thickness.

I know where you're trying to get at with the DG nano. It doesn't dry solid like other coatings e.g OC or pompanazzi 880X.

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 07:00 PM

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QUOTE (jonlsl @ Feb 29 2012, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh like that ah, as far from what I know, DG nano can be layered (from what i know means from what i have read not my testing as I haven't tested lah). Meaning it is possible to layer upon itself. I.E. you can put 1 layer of DG nano then a week later put another layer of DG nano. Or you can top the DG nano off with carnauba wax or carnauba spray wax or some other LSP but not much has been documented about DG nano as i think its not officially released in the US.

So in my testing I will leave Dg nano without and topper first for a few weeks. Then I might do another test with fresh coat of DG nano with carnauba topper or DG AW after car wash.

Compared to OC2.0. It cannot be layered upon its self (actually can layer slightly if you know how to but if you get too much it will become cloudy or streak so its tricky and must be done just after OC2.0 flashes roughly about 5min). That means once flashed and cured, the 2nd coat of OC2.0 you apply will not stick to the 1st coat of OC2.0. Thus is cannot be layered. Also if you decide to put wax or some other LSP on top of OC2.0 it will not really "stick" well and can be easily removed just by washing. But this has its good point as it can help reduce water spotting by using an LSP and the LSP gets washed away along with the water spots.

When some people refer to some sealant or wax cannot be layered is because it either has some light abrasives or chemical cleaners which will remove the previous layer thus unable to layer it. That is why some LSP claim to have no abrasives nor any cleaners so you can layer them.

DG nano is best applied on a cool dry car sections at a time in small circles, up & down, right to left motion with light pressure (to ensure even coverage) and work the product until it flashes, using a fine finishing MF cloth cut in to 4"x4" squares. Do not use long or big right to left, and big circular motions like applying carnauba wax like some people do. Highly recommended to NOT use a foam applicator pad (same also with OC2.0 and most clear liquid coatings). Then once flashed use a new clean finishing MF cloth cut into 4"x4" square to buff. Then you are done. As always prep the car properly with:

1. wash
2. clay
3. polish
4. strong concentrated wash (to remove all polishing oils)
5. IPA wipe down (optional) Don't need to if your strong concentrated wash can remove all polishing oils.
6. DG Nano

A little goes along way so don't over saturate the MF cloth when applying. As its wasting product as it also flashes very quickly in our weather.

As with all Nano Particle products best to wear gloves. Not sure if that will help but better than nothing.


Bro..Do you any pics of microfiber that use for this application?
And where we can get it?

Br


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Posted 29 February 2012 - 08:23 PM

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QUOTE (eohl79 @ Feb 29 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bron jonlsl, let me know if the MF towel hardens or the fiber tips gets encrusted. Just want to know...



Bro eohl79...If it does hardens the fiber mean???

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:50 AM

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QUOTE (drivemax @ Feb 29 2012, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bro..Do you any pics of microfiber that use for this application?
And where we can get it?

Br


I use perma glass MF Finishing cloth. Just use scissors and cut to the size you want. Make sure you wear gloves as you are dealing with nano particles.




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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

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QUOTE (drivemax @ Feb 29 2012, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bro eohl79...If it does hardens the fiber mean???

Just want to know if the product actually crystallize and harden on the fibre. You see sealant and wax never crystallize the fibre. Real coatings will usually harden the fibre and it is not recommended to use them again after application on a panel. So jonlsl usage of a MF being cut up into smaller pieces actually makes sense - use one small piece on a panel then throw away because the coating will start to cure and crystallize on the fibre end an may induce marring on the next panel.

I tired those expensive round facial cotton applicator before. Might work on paint but never use it on plastic. The last time I used it on plastic with OC2.0 it generated static (same effect when using sealant and wax btw) and attracted all the lint from the cotton applicator. Those super short nap MF like those used to wipe spectacles might work better as I think it won't absorb too much product and will spread the coating better - don't know and never tried before.