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Which Is Better? Bridgestone, Michelin, Continental, Falken, Hankook


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Posted 28 December 2010 - 09:58 AM

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QUOTE (michael80 @ Dec 28 2010, 09:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes it is... Duraplus i think can last coz the advert is 100k km for that tires but hard to say when you have uneven wear problem... korean tires ok la... similar thinking like mine last time... but after i use hankook V12 i don mind to use it again... wink.gif

ok... thanks again for da advice... i guess kumho ESPT la... there is not kdai tires sell hankook tire at ipoh... i searched everywhere... what a shame... haha...

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 05:03 PM

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QUOTE (mrhacker90 @ Dec 27 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
vr2, thanks for the advice... by the way, how about the allignment & balancing?? as we do balancing & allignment, we do rotate the tire? usually, every 5k km, i rotate the right front tire to left behind tire & vice versa... same also with left right tire to right behind tire... vice versa also... how about PP2? due to the wire thread drain the water, how do i rotate the tire?

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Firstly, nowadays radial ply tyres are rotated between front and rear only, not crossed.
However, if you have uneven wear, then rotate with cross or even removal and refit method.
5k km seems to often. Most rotate at 10k km.
If steering is straight, and tyres wear nicely, no need for alignment every time.
Balancing the same, if the wheel does not vibrate, why re-balance??

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 05:04 PM

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QUOTE (michael80 @ Dec 28 2010, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
PP2 is Asymmetric tires, it outer block will always face out no matter where you put it... so if your car is wearing outer block faster then this will make it a lil more worst... BTW PP2 outer block did wear faster than i expect, if you like corners you will see the difference...
try to change to directional tires if you have outer block or inner block thread wear faster...

i'm not sifu, my sifu is Mr Chew (vr2turbo)... last time i stick to Michelin only now i'm more neutral to others...

Aiyah, we share info and experience only mah, not sifu also..... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 05:10 PM

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QUOTE (mrhacker90 @ Dec 28 2010, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i have read another comment of reader about korean tires... they said that korean tires not good.. haha.. i don't know la... this is the first time i have to replace the new tires.. still newies.. haha... by the way, my father juz ask me to buy goodyear tire je... i consider his oppinion n i found 2 type of tires...

GYDuraPlus
GYDucaro GA

are these tire assymetric?? i do have a look... but i'm not pretty sure wether these tires is assymetric or directional... haha...
by the way, thanks for da advice michael80..

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Duraplus is asymmetric and Ducaro is symmetric.....

Whatever tyres you use, first get your priority correct. Normally comfort and quiet tyres are non performing and performance tyres are normal without comfort. Budget also plays a part.
Having said that, PP2 are performance. Good in dry and wet, but ride is hard and noisy. RE-030 should be about the same.
ZE-912 is something in between, should be same as V8RS
Yoko A Drive are entry level.
Kumho SPT (KU31) should be okay for you. Now Made in Vietnam and is cheaper. Could be slightly noisy.

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 06:15 PM

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QUOTE (vr2turbo @ Dec 28 2010, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Duraplus is asymmetric and Ducaro is symmetric.....

Whatever tyres you use, first get your priority correct. Normally comfort and quiet tyres are non performing and performance tyres are normal without comfort. Budget also plays a part.
Having said that, PP2 are performance. Good in dry and wet, but ride is hard and noisy. RE-030 should be about the same.
ZE-912 is something in between, should be same as V8RS
Yoko A Drive are entry level.
Kumho SPT (KU31) should be okay for you. Now Made in Vietnam and is cheaper. Could be slightly noisy.

i'm living at ipoh... at the kdai tire around here... there is no stock for 912, kumho ESPT, V8RS... yg ada cuma ECSTA... at the end, i juz buy GY DUCARO GA.. 2 only... replace at the rear tire... CC5 also not availabe.. by the way, is this tire comfort & quite after long period? perhaps when i returned to KL next year could find another 2 front tires.. need advice from vr2turbo & michael80... around Gombak... where i find CC5, Kumho ESPT? any suggestion?

with all, regards..

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 06:42 PM

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QUOTE (mrhacker90 @ Dec 28 2010, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'm living at ipoh... at the kdai tire around here... there is no stock for 912, kumho ESPT, V8RS... yg ada cuma ECSTA... at the end, i juz buy GY DUCARO GA.. 2 only... replace at the rear tire... CC5 also not availabe.. by the way, is this tire comfort & quite after long period? perhaps when i returned to KL next year could find another 2 front tires.. need advice from vr2turbo & michael80... around Gombak... where i find CC5, Kumho ESPT? any suggestion?

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We are in PJ, so Gombak is out. Maybe some members can recommend.

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 07:17 PM

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QUOTE (vr2turbo @ Dec 28 2010, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We are in PJ, so Gombak is out. Maybe some members can recommend.

oh.. i see... by the way, any comment on GY Ducaro GA?? since i already but it... hahaha.. how about it overall rating?? is this tire comfort & quite?

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:56 AM

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QUOTE (mrhacker90 @ Dec 28 2010, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh.. i see... by the way, any comment on GY Ducaro GA?? since i already but it... hahaha.. how about it overall rating?? is this tire comfort & quite?

with all, regards..

Those are entry level touring tyres for normal use..... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 12:48 PM

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QUOTE (vr2turbo @ Dec 29 2010, 09:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those are entry level touring tyres for normal use..... smile_tongue.gif

ooo... however, basically there are how many entry level of tire eh?? have a little knowledge of tire....

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 01:55 PM

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QUOTE (mrhacker90 @ Dec 29 2010, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ooo... however, basically there are how many entry level of tire eh?? have a little knowledge of tire....

with all, regards...

Basically we normally class around 6 levels. Entry, HP, Comfort Performance, UHP, Max and Extreme.
Sometimes HP will have mix match with comfort performance depending on the brands.

Entry level - Normal day to day use, Most OE tyres for production cars
HP/Comfort performance - Comfort and/or with quiet ride
UHP - These are higher performing, better grip in wet and dry
Max - These are evn higher performing than UHP with even better wet and dry grip
Extreme - Outright dry performing tyres like semi slick, road legal race/track tyres, but these are not so good in the wet

Having said that, tyre technology have improved leaps and bound, therefore you will find some qualities not found as explained above in some of the newer tyres. For example PS3 is Max performance, but now built softer for comfort.

Example of tyres:
Entry - Michelin XM1, GY Ducaro, Dunlop J3, Yoko A-Drive(AA-01), Falken ZE322, BS AR-10, Conti CC1
HP/CP - Michelin PLC, GY NCT5, Dunlop D-01, Yoko DNA, Falken ZE-912, BS GR-90, Conti CPC2
UHP - Michelin PP2, GY Rev Spec, Yoko S-Drive, Falken FK452, BS RE-001, Conti CSC1
Max - Michelin PS3, GY F1 Asy., Yoko Advan V103, BS RE-050, Conti CSC3
Extreme - Michelin Pilot Sports, GY RS Sports, Yoko A048, Dunlop Star Spec, Falken RT-615, BS RE-11, Conti Extreme

Hope you can digest the above...... smile_tongue.gif