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Posted 08 October 2010 - 04:52 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 8 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am only against those infected car journalists who received orders to follow and missions to carry out.


What do you think we are? Soldiers?

QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 8 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stop trying to carry out your mission by treating me as some1 who just merely test drive the Sylphy.


I don't have any 'mission' to defend the Sylphy against people's negative perceptions. If it is your view that the Sylphy is crap, I'm not going to tell you to change it.

However, just because you don't think highly of it, it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to follow your views. I'm not a big fan of the Sylphy either, but I do recognize what its competencies are and give it credit where credit is due.

You keep insisting that there's a hidden fuel tank in the Lightfoot Quest vehicles, and you say you have links to several parties. The parties you mentioned were responsible for installing those tanks?
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Posted 08 October 2010 - 09:23 PM

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QUOTE (kawkawchan @ Oct 7 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dun flame me lah , occasionally I oso love driving my mum's Nissan X-Trail 2.5 .......

Finally i understand why u think nissan is an "antie" car. rolleyes.gif


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Posted 09 October 2010 - 12:22 AM

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QUOTE (Halem @ Oct 8 2010, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally i understand why u think nissan is an "antie" car. rolleyes.gif

Nope , the gelaran "auntie car" is meant for Sylphy only .......
Even , Nissan sendiri told Ah Paul that car is targetted for those mid class aunties/grannies only .......

http://paultan.org/2...luebird-sylphy/
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Posted 10 October 2010 - 01:43 AM

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QUOTE (kawkawchan @ Oct 7 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dun flame me lah , occasionally I oso love driving my mum's Nissan X-Trail 2.5 .......



Xtrail 2.5 is a powerful suv...semi-hardcore for offroad already~ smile_big.gif even our law enforcement using this model man, so dun call it auntie car~ smile_big.gif

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 10:56 AM

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QUOTE (TheGunner @ Oct 8 2010, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What do you think we are? Soldiers?



I don't have any 'mission' to defend the Sylphy against people's negative perceptions. If it is your view that the Sylphy is crap, I'm not going to tell you to change it.

However, just because you don't think highly of it, it doesn't mean the rest of the world has to follow your views. I'm not a big fan of the Sylphy either, but I do recognize what its competencies are and give it credit where credit is due.

You keep insisting that there's a hidden fuel tank in the Lightfoot Quest vehicles, and you say you have links to several parties. The parties you mentioned were responsible for installing those tanks?


You know, I know and some others know. Not necessarily soldiers that have missions. Even car journalists can carry out secret missions when infected. I think you should stopped getting defending those journalists especially if you think you are not infected. Why would you so eager to reply my comment against biased journalists?

It is not that I don't think highly of it, but the fact is those infected journalists are overly protecting the Sylphy like they don't even know how to take FC reading, inspect cars, feeling suspicious, etc. Whatever, I got info from parties about what bad things going on behind. I only voiced out after gathering enough evidence.

The Sonata NF that is superior and better car was being killed by propaganda successfully. I am not going to let these infected journalists to team up with those cowards spreading false rumours/propaganda to kill any other cars that are really good especially when these alternative brands have lousy marketing staffs and management. Cars that are on killing list:

Current target
- Forte
- Sonata YF
- Tucson
- Cruze (critical)

Coming soon target
- Fiesta
- Optima 2011
- Sportage 2011
- Avante 2011
- Focus 2011
- new batch of Chevy and Ford

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 01:43 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I know and some others know. Not necessarily soldiers that have missions. Even car journalists can carry out secret missions when infected. I think you should stopped getting defending those journalists especially if you think you are not infected. Why would you so eager to reply my comment against biased journalists?


Dude, take a chill pill man. I don't make it a practice to publicly criticize the work of other journalists, but I don't defend them either. I only say I agree with them, or I don't.

QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It is not that I don't think highly of it, but the fact is those infected journalists are overly protecting the Sylphy like they don't even know how to take FC reading, inspect cars, feeling suspicious, etc. Whatever, I got info from parties about what bad things going on behind. I only voiced out after gathering enough evidence.


Well, share your evidence. You have certainly piqued my curiousity.

QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Sonata NF that is superior and better car was being killed by propaganda successfully. I am not going to let these infected journalists to team up with those cowards spreading false rumours/propaganda to kill any other cars that are really good especially when these alternative brands have lousy marketing staffs and management. Cars that are on killing list:


I shall refrain from commenting on the Sonata NF, because I have not tested the car myself.


QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Current target
- Forte
- Sonata YF
- Tucson
- Cruze (critical)


Thus far, most reviews of the Forte, Sonata YF and Tucson that I've read have come out pretty positive. What makes you think they're being targeted? Having said that, I do recall Autocar picking the City over the Forte in a shootout test.

That aside, most journalists have been happy with the Forte, and many of us have recommended many friends to put their money down on one.

The Sonata and Tucson have earned pretty rave reviews too, though most of us feel that the Sonata's driving dynamics does not quite live up to its good looks.

QUOTE (jayraptor @ Oct 11 2010, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Coming soon target
- Fiesta
- Optima 2011
- Sportage 2011
- Avante 2011
- Focus 2011
- new batch of Chevy and Ford


I can't speak for the 2011 cars yet, but once again, the Fiesta have earned good reviews too, though many of us have gripes with the lack of manual overriding for the 1.6 twin clutch and also the omission of the passenger airbag for the 1.6 sedan.

In fact, the only people I know who are not happy with the Fiesta are those who have paid their bookings 2-3 months ago and still waiting for the car to be officially launched.
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Posted 11 October 2010 - 02:13 PM

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For me is a simple case if i like what the jornalist wrote i finished the whole articles , if not i close it.

No point intimidating jornalist to wrote what u like to read, u choose what u like to read, if it doesn't suite your taste don't read that blog or don't buy that particular magazine.

Simple isn't it ?

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Posted 11 October 2010 - 04:08 PM

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In case none of the recent posters noticed, this thread started to be way off topic since a couple of pages on. TheGunner has created a thread to delve into journalism http://forum.autowor...h...c=95823&hl=

Now can we get on with more tasty stuffs related to the Cruze pretty please ?

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Posted 12 October 2010 - 06:24 PM

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QUOTE (benny1001 @ Oct 10 2010, 01:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Xtrai 2.5 is a powerful suv...semi-hardcore for offroad already~ smile_big.gif even our law enforcement using this model man, so dun call it auntie car~ smile_big.gif

After looking at the new Tucson's cun looks , I have to call X-Trail as Ah pek car...... smile_approve.gif

Damn , I better faster go brain wash my mum to go for Korean/German cars , either :
- Tucson 2.4 Dual CVVT or
- Golf 1.4 Twin Turbo
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Posted 13 October 2010 - 11:18 AM

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QUOTE (skykisser @ Oct 11 2010, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In case none of the recent posters noticed, this thread started to be way off topic since a couple of pages on. TheGunner has created a thread to delve into journalism http://forum.autowor...h...c=95823&hl=

Now can we get on with more tasty stuffs related to the Cruze pretty please ?


skykisser,
When Cruze had its wings already being badly wounded by propaganda and the chain reaction from false news that it required healing before it could fly again. Yet, Chevy Marketing staffs are sort of dumb in promoting cars that have several advantages that they could press on. Just because of acceleration of 0-100km/h in 11.5s slower than many 1.8L cars, they just stood there like wood.

It requires someone and many to counter back these false news propaganda spread by infected journalists and cowards in order to heal the wounded Cruze. Not to say that I'm veering off topic, I'm still on right track. Isn't comments about infected journalists shooting down Cruze still related to Cruze topic?

Gunner,
I'm not even mad at you, I don't have to chill out. I'm just fending off infected journalists attack on car brands models that are posing threat to the N and H brands. Since you are on my suspect list and if I share evidence with you, aren't you going to inform the infector allowing them to punish those who passed me the evidence?

Yes, in journalists hearts, these cars that they attempted to shoot down are great and superb but infector's infection is more important. They don't mind shooting down these quality cars to protect the N and H brands. Fiesta when it is available on the road, those infected journalists will surely shoot it down especially when it is proven to have superb FC while having superior performance and handling. Things that they'll attack would be maintenance, spare parts, resale value and would rev harder when taking FC reading like Forte.

Halem,
This is not about like or dislike their comments. This is about twisted facts and propaganda released by infected journalists. This is how it works, infector infects journalists to spread false facts on Cruze to carmag readers then car mag readers spread to friends and relatives and again these friends and relatives spread to their friends and relatives. This manipulation is enough to give impression to everyone that Korean cars, Ford, Chevy, etc are bad and lousy without even looking at them personally.

Like my workplace alone, so many staffs never owned Korean cars and yet they could say Forte is lousy. Only when I got to borrow my colleague's Forte for 2 months when he's away, I get to drag most of them into extreme test and pitted against their T, H & N brands for 2 months, not just crappy test drive by journalists but proper evaluation and testing. The Forte won with highest score with still reasonable FC. The only way to change public perception is through real hands on, perhaps Cruze should put up their cars for mass rental instead of just crappy test drive. You can't sell many at this moment but able to rent out several units while making profit is still better than sitting duck at showroom collecting dust and make no profit.

kawkawchan,

If your plan successful, help to try out the Tucson and post comments in AW.