Lancer Vs Civic

Wei brothers............... chill it!!!!!!!!!!!

At the end of the day, its up the prospecting buyers to decide which car, safety features, design will suit their lifestyle, speed, comfort, budget etc etc etc

Definitely agree. But someone just can't accept his opinions about a particular car can be challenged.

Yes, salespeople like you shouldn't spread false perception around. If without ABS is that safe, why would car manufacturer including the most basic one fit their cars with ABS? Why not you removed the ABS in your Sylphy and drive around rather than having the liability to fix ABS if it got faulty in future. Which salesman can switch company that fast? Can you?

So what facts do you have that Naza can't maintain good after sales for Forte? What facts do you have that the newer generation Korean cars are having problem? None. So if you are not salesman, what makes you say that? Have you seen any salesman that knows so much? Where got? All just talk to the level of yours only. Question them on technical, all gone blurr.

Reason why I voiced out dissatisfaction on N16 without ABS is because ABS is more important than airbag and that stupid safety lock on the gear shift. Which car that you find doesn't come with ABS other than N16 and low budget cars? None. Even Perodua & Proton have ABS as compulsory. That's why, having salesman like you in car company management made disastrous decision on keeping the airbag and unnecessary gadgets while dispose the most important safety device.

In short, just trade in yur N16 for the Forte as if not wrong the 1.6 model starts from RM76k.. and make sure u check the available specs correctly before buying it and dun end up like when u buy the Sentra 1.6SG where there was the SG-L model available also!

On your statement of Even P2 & P1 have ABS as compulsory... u better check your facts again.. there are a few Myvi & Viva variants w/o ABS and even a/bags.. same goes for some Persona and Saga BLM models.

Actually, I would really like to stop responding to your nonsense. But this is just getting out of hand. Please find a quote from me that I am bad mouthing the Forte or Naza. (Please provide proof will you) I think you are really getting desperate. I think the competition in the automotive industry is really driving you crazy. How do I know whether Naza is providing good service or not? Bad image about Kia and quality???? Only those who have ever owned them know the best. Unfortunately, the fatty jayraptor have not even get the chance to own it has already been praising the Forte like the King of all cars (as if it is perfect ) So, who is behaving more like a salesman now

By the way, the story you concocted is very uninteresting. However, I have to salute you for the thick skin you have for pushing words into my mouth. Fatty jayraptor just can't take it because his "tail" was revealed. Dear forummers, please find more interesting stories about the fatty jayraptor in the Nissan, Toyota and Honda thread (especially about the Sylphy,Lancer, Altis and Civic). Now is the Forte, I guessed the next one is Cruze.

Popcorn,
Those P1 & P2 without ABS only applies to the most basic stripped down version. 1.6SG is considered equivalent to Vios & City, not stripped down version so it must have ABS. The actual stripped down version N16 was the 1.5E that had phased out. Because of management of car company that decided to remove the ABS caused me losing over RM20k to replace the family car. That car can now fetch RM60k or less from trade in.

Miki Mao,
The praising of competitors are meant for provoking your favourite ride. By looking at the new challengers, they actually do look good in fact. Just need time to prove it. Since Sonata NF is sharing the same tech in Forte, I can roughly used it as guide. At least I check out all candidates before I really buy. Unlike you, complaining so much on rattlesnake and you tested and checked that car yourself before you buy it. Unlike me, I wasn't there to check everything. Your rattlesnake can be easily solved with Autofoam without warranty void. For my N16 without ABS is major mistake ever made by management staffs from car company. Not acceptable for Japs cars min requirement.

Wow, I must give you a compliment for making up a good story(that you are not there when u bought the N16. )At least that may help to deflect some of the funny stares at you. Clap! Clap! Clap! Clap! Sorry hah, have to cucuk you again. But just remind your family members to bring you along next time ok.

About the rattlesnakes and etc, the Civic has been fully autofoamed more than a year ago. Not only that, fully soundproofed too. I knew that the car was already noisy at the first place. But I want fun mah. That is why the Sylphy is my alternative to a quieter ride and fit for the family.

But then, what competitor we have that time in early 2008 which fits into the fun to drive category. The only one that come across my mind with the RM130K budget is the Mazda 3(older generation), Mitsubishi Lancer GT. The Golf Gti and BMW 3 series were too expensive. The car must have lots of room for modifications. So, what were left were only the the Lancer and Civic. Me is a maniac ICEr, so a wide and deep dashboard is a welcoming feature. Besides, I prefer quality interior materials especially the dashboard. Hence, choice is made easier with the Civic as the winner (as far as my personal perspective is concerned). Then, the Peugeot 308 Turbo arrived. This has really made me go bongs about it thinking about the generous equipments and the quality it has and so cheap too. Ok, the negative image about cars distributed by Naza come across my mind again..... Anyway, just settle with the noisy Civic and invest extra in autofoam and soundproof to beef up its shortcomings loh. Tadaa, now I have a "continental tiruan" in disguise.

Aren't you forgetting that the N16 is bought for family use? No one would really expect TanCHong would remove ABS in N16 especially when it has the tag "1.6SG (A) Sport". Most thought that it was priced lower because they give black interior and drum brake for mini drift. Who knows, they would remove ABS the most important gadget especially in car with the tag "Sports". Without ABS, calling it Sport and sell to common people is suicidal. How to do sports when braking could easily get into wheel lock, not even feel safe driving on roads expecting crazy people to swerve their cars around.

Anyway, good explanation on your choice of picking Civic. I prefer Altis 1.8E at that time while Sylphy looks promising b4 the 3 Nissan sifus told me to prove their claims right.

If u can find a mint condition BMW E46 325 2004/05 model, at range of RM115k, it's worth considering...

Hi Tan Chong or any people from ETCM/Nissan, please take this feedback into account because every car with the name 'Sports' must have ABS Not only that, train your salesman to explain all the safety features to the customers because when things go wrong, your company will be blamed (although may not be entirely your fault). You knowlah, they are always lots of unreasonable customers lurking around.

Your Latio Sports comes with ABS hoh?