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Posted 28 November 2009 - 12:57 PM

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QUOTE (sunyatsen @ Nov 28 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This person is only a salesman. Probably most of the points and specs were picked up from the sales training manual. If you observe him further, he just can't back up his claims at all.

Since he said his Sentra 1.6 2007 is that crap then just sell it off for RM35k (cheaper than Proton Waja/Gen2), and buy his Naza Forte.. yeah since he said it's junk huh.. why keep.. lol
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Posted 28 November 2009 - 05:02 PM

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QUOTE (Popcorn @ Nov 28 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since he said his Sentra 1.6 2007 is that crap then just sell it off for RM35k (cheaper than Proton Waja/Gen2), and buy his Naza Forte.. yeah since he said it's junk huh.. why keep.. lol


Give him a little bit of face lah smile_tongue.gif I think he could get slightly higher than RM35K for his N16 which he couldn't drive properly. Perhaps RM35'000.05 to get his Forte. smile_big.gif smile_big.gif

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:25 AM

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QUOTE (Popcorn @ Nov 28 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since he said his Sentra 1.6 2007 is that crap then just sell it off for RM35k (cheaper than Proton Waja/Gen2), and buy his Naza Forte.. yeah since he said it's junk huh.. why keep.. lol


Greetings Popcorn & Miki Mao,

The fact is that no salesman & marketing staff able to talk like the way I do. The way they talk good things about their own products and try hard to bring down competitors that are superior more like the way both of you do. If they could provide facts like me, I don't think they'll want to be salesman at all as they won't be able to buy cars they like. None of you 2 answer my question on most expensive process in assembling cars. Why? Can't get technical dept to assist?

Yes, to me that Sentra 1.6SG without ABS that I owned is 1 thing that really shouldn't buy at all. Owning a Wira 1.6I (A) with ABS sounds more practical than to go for RM84k for crap that can't even brake hard without getting into wheel lock. Since both of you disagree with me on the absence of ABS in 1.6SG (A), why not 1 of you buy my N16 at RM70k or maybe at RM75k? Ah yes, popcorn, aren't you are trying to sell off your 1.6SG as well. So, why are you selling it too? Want to go for Honda or buy that stretched limo version of Sentra known as Sylphy?

As far as I see any car that has much effort, quality & materials placed on it with reasonable price, you'll see me defending these great cars from kiasu sales/marketing people like both of you. I think you'll need your entire office colleagues to challenge me head on. Seems like both of you feel threathened by the Forte now, I'll counter your effort to create bad perception on the Forte.

Next year, new facelift Altis with new engine & new Civic will appear too, I think you 2 will definitely try to bring down the 2, I'll step in by then. See you guys around in AW. For now, Forte. Look Forte 1.6EX, the lowest specs come with all disc brake (same as the 1 used in Lancer) and got ABS + 2 airbags and many more. Forte 1.6SX already got almost everything that D-segment should have where as Sylphy is just so so even against Forte 1.6EX. Forte drag cd is below 0.30, Sylphy claimed at 0.32cd but the lower part creates lift that make it floaty at high speed wor. I'll be going to test drive Forte together with engineers to check that car kawkaw. You 2 want to go? Yes, then don't get cover blown, else very paise if they caught you red handed for spying.

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Posted 29 November 2009 - 09:38 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Nov 29 2009, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Greetings Popcorn & Miki Mao,

The fact is that no salesman & marketing staff able to talk like the way I do. The way they talk good things about their own products and try hard to bring down competitors that are superior more like the way both of you do. If they could provide facts like me, I don't think they'll want to be salesman at all as they won't be able to buy cars they like. None of you 2 answer my question on most expensive process in assembling cars. Why? Can't get technical dept to assist?

Yes, to me that Sentra 1.6SG without ABS that I owned is 1 thing that really shouldn't buy at all. Owning a Wira 1.6I (A) with ABS sounds more practical than to go for RM84k for crap that can't even brake hard without getting into wheel lock. Since both of you disagree with me on the absence of ABS in 1.6SG (A), why not 1 of you buy my N16 at RM70k or maybe at RM75k? Ah yes, popcorn, aren't you are trying to sell off your 1.6SG as well. So, why are you selling it too? Want to go for Honda or buy that stretched limo version of Sentra known as Sylphy?

As far as I see any car that has much effort, quality & materials placed on it with reasonable price, you'll see me defending these great cars from kiasu sales/marketing people like both of you. I think you'll need your entire office colleagues to challenge me head on. Seems like both of you feel threathened by the Forte now, I'll counter your effort to create bad perception on the Forte.

Next year, new facelift Altis with new engine & new Civic will appear too, I think you 2 will definitely try to bring down the 2, I'll step in by then. See you guys around in AW. For now, Forte. Look Forte 1.6EX, the lowest specs come with all disc brake (same as the 1 used in Lancer) and got ABS + 2 airbags and many more. Forte 1.6SX already got almost everything that D-segment should have where as Sylphy is just so so even against Forte 1.6EX. Forte drag cd is below 0.30, Sylphy claimed at 0.32cd but the lower part creates lift that make it floaty at high speed wor. I'll be going to test drive Forte together with engineers to check that car kawkaw. You 2 want to go? Yes, then don't get cover blown, else very paise if they caught you red handed for spying.


Stupid.. u siad junk mah, so sell off at RM35k and get the Forte lar.. why being so sore with the so called junk that u own?? Since u think junk then sell like a junk lor smile_tongue.gif Oh yah.. FYI.. I've got another ride and keeping this N16 also... even though it's just a E46 325 SMG 2004.. i wud say u will think that at 115k the Lancer and Tortoise is still better than the E46 huh.. mebe Forte much better... guess this salesman change from selling Mitsu to Naza quite quick..

All have their choice when buying a car, so if u dislike Nissan just dun buy lar.. and better sell yur N16 off like a junk..
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:13 AM

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QUOTE (Popcorn @ Nov 29 2009, 09:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stupid.. u siad junk mah, so sell off at RM35k and get the Forte lar.. why being so sore with the so called junk that u own?? Since u think junk then sell like a junk lor smile_tongue.gif Oh yah.. FYI.. I've got another ride and keeping this N16 also... even though it's just a E46 325 SMG 2004.. i wud say u will think that at 115k the Lancer and Tortoise is still better than the E46 huh.. mebe Forte much better... guess this salesman change from selling Mitsu to Naza quite quick..

All have their choice when buying a car, so if u dislike Nissan just dun buy lar.. and better sell yur N16 off like a junk..



Look salesman popcorn losing temper. No salesman can switch side that fast, if yes, I would like to see how can you do that 1st. You mentioned b4 you were working as salesman for used car dealer, so it could be possible that you are now working for Neesan. Ofcourse, some of your colleagues including you know that N16 is not really up to your taste, you bought it just to convince buyers rather than pleasing your ownself. No problem 1.

Ah yes, N16 might be junk to me but could be treasure to you. In buy & sell law, if the buyer treats that thing as precious jewels, surely must sell high price to you. RM81k, what do you say? Then I can buy Forte 1.6SX or even the 2.0SX, very good.

I might go to Kia showroom and passed details on how to counter false facts spread by eyesored marketing and salespeople like you from bringing down cars that are good for FREE. I don't mind sharing info with them. I have lots of project reports done for past time on cars with fellow hobbist & friends that are more accurate and detailed compared to what you did by sneaking into competitors showroom and desperate for test drive. Do enjoy!

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:29 AM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Nov 30 2009, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look salesman popcorn losing temper. No salesman can switch side that fast, if yes, I would like to see how can you do that 1st. You mentioned b4 you were working as salesman for used car dealer, so it could be possible that you are now working for Neesan. Ofcourse, some of your colleagues including you know that N16 is not really up to your taste, you bought it just to convince buyers rather than pleasing your ownself. No problem 1.

Ah yes, N16 might be junk to me but could be treasure to you. In buy & sell law, if the buyer treats that thing as precious jewels, surely must sell high price to you. RM81k, what do you say? Then I can buy Forte 1.6SX or even the 2.0SX, very good.

I might go to Kia showroom and passed details on how to counter false facts spread by eyesored marketing and salespeople like you from bringing down cars that are good for FREE. I don't mind sharing info with them. I have lots of project reports done for past time on cars with fellow hobbist & friends that are more accurate and detailed compared to what you did by sneaking into competitors showroom and desperate for test drive. Do enjoy!


I wud suggest this fella must go to Hospital Bahagia.. now beginning to treat all as Car Salesman... siow liao smile_tongue.gif
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Posted 30 November 2009 - 11:56 AM

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QUOTE (Popcorn @ Nov 30 2009, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wud suggest this fella must go to Hospital Bahagia.. now beginning to treat all as Car Salesman... siow liao smile_tongue.gif


Why popcorn can't give facts but craps? Which part shows that I'm treating all as car salesman. None except the few same fella with same style comment to bring down cars that they have not even getting details on. To spot car salesman & marketing guy in forum is not difficult especially those who overdo and too revealing.

So, any latest hot topic in your recent meeting/briefing lately on the rise of the Koreans that left you speechless on what to shoot? Going to say its black interior not classy or the gated shift difficult to use as in the Exora vs Livina comparison charts that you placed around each showroom? Hahahaha.......

Come on, share some info from your meeting, I want to see how are you going to counter Forte and also the Alza.

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Posted 30 November 2009 - 01:59 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Nov 30 2009, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why popcorn can't give facts but craps? Which part shows that I'm treating all as car salesman. None except the few same fella with same style comment to bring down cars that they have not even getting details on. To spot car salesman & marketing guy in forum is not difficult especially those who overdo and too revealing.
So, any latest hot topic in your recent meeting/briefing lately on the rise of the Koreans that left you speechless on what to shoot? Going to say its black interior not classy or the gated shift difficult to use as in the Exora vs Livina comparison charts that you placed around each showroom? Hahahaha.......

Come on, share some info from your meeting, I want to see how are you going to counter Forte and also the Alza.


Finally, he is talking about himself by spreading crap. Starts with the Lancer and then the Altis. Now, tadaaa the Forte. Only people (or is it?) with ulterior motives talk without sense of direction or any hint of facts. Ask you to show some proof, but it ended with some unreliable fictional stories or none in many cases. Anyway, it doesn't matter because most forummers know what you are up to. Being bashed up in the Nissan and Honda forum are good evidence to show you are up to no good. You are suffering serious inferiority complex problem here. Do u realize that????

Be humble and not let your arrogance degrade your little pride for knowing so much for so little. smile_big.gif Even in this thread, a Lancer owner has to correct your mistake by saying the Lancer is not as quiet as the Altis. Do you know that you are wrong most of the times? Well, no one can stop you if you insist to show your stupidity or persist with your bias opinions. Can someone shower this fatty here with some sympathy please.... (since he can't get any in other threads/forums?) 059.gif There are many owners of the Civic, Lancer, Altis, Sylphy in the forum and they definitely know whether you are speaking the truth or just seeking a selfish personal agenda here.

By the way, dear forummers can check this fatty's replies in the N16 thread, Sylphy thread and Civic thread about the true colours of the fatty jayraptor. My advice to the fatty is to edit all his replies before more is found about him and his frustration about Nissan.

Lastly, don't estimate salesman and honestly I found most of them knows so much more than an empty vessel like you. If you are so good, how come you ended with a car that you are so frustrated with. This fact has spoken very much about your 'intelligence' (if you have any?)

Sorry, I don't own the Forte or the Alza, so won't talk much about them. But, I'm sure there's lots of excitement about these new cars. By the way, please keep the thread clean and you can always brag about your opinions in the relevant threads.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 12:52 PM

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QUOTE (sunyatsen @ Nov 30 2009, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Finally, he is talking about himself by spreading crap. Starts with the Lancer and then the Altis. Now, tadaaa the Forte. Only people (or is it?) with ulterior motives talk without sense of direction or any hint of facts. Ask you to show some proof, but it ended with some unreliable fictional stories or none in many cases. Anyway, it doesn't matter because most forummers know what you are up to. Being bashed up in the Nissan and Honda forum are good evidence to show you are up to no good. You are suffering serious inferiority complex problem here. Do u realize that????

Be humble and not let your arrogance degrade your little pride for knowing so much for so little. smile_big.gif Even in this thread, a Lancer owner has to correct your mistake by saying the Lancer is not as quiet as the Altis. Do you know that you are wrong most of the times? Well, no one can stop you if you insist to show your stupidity or persist with your bias opinions. Can someone shower this fatty here with some sympathy please.... (since he can't get any in other threads/forums?) 059.gif There are many owners of the Civic, Lancer, Altis, Sylphy in the forum and they definitely know whether you are speaking the truth or just seeking a selfish personal agenda here.

By the way, dear forummers can check this fatty's replies in the N16 thread, Sylphy thread and Civic thread about the true colours of the fatty jayraptor. My advice to the fatty is to edit all his replies before more is found about him and his frustration about Nissan.

Lastly, don't estimate salesman and honestly I found most of them knows so much more than an empty vessel like you. If you are so good, how come you ended with a car that you are so frustrated with. This fact has spoken very much about your 'intelligence' (if you have any?)

Sorry, I don't own the Forte or the Alza, so won't talk much about them. But, I'm sure there's lots of excitement about these new cars. By the way, please keep the thread clean and you can always brag about your opinions in the relevant threads.



Miki Mao,

Sure go ahead and check. No problem. Facts won't run anyway. Only salesman and marketing staff of current brand that will say ABS is not so important especially the car they are selling don't come with ABS. Your technique is called diversion because you can't counter my facts so you and your colleagues would have to twist around with crap words trying to divert the attention elsewhere rather than on the test report and materials costing.

Yes, both of you might earn high commission to buy 1 Nissan to convince buyers + 1 actual own ride coz you like it more than the product you are selling. If you let fair competition, you are just worried that it'll affect your sales. That's why.

Yes, worry more because I will spread knowledge amongst every1 so that they'll know how to counter all those false diversion that you and the rest love to use. That'll make the better car wins rather than false perception overshadowing the better cars.

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 02:28 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Dec 1 2009, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Miki Mao,

Sure go ahead and check. No problem. Facts won't run anyway. Only salesman and marketing staff of current brand that will say ABS is not so important especially the car they are selling don't come with ABS. Your technique is called diversion because you can't counter my facts so you and your colleagues would have to twist around with crap words trying to divert the attention elsewhere rather than on the test report and materials costing.

Yes, both of you might earn high commission to buy 1 Nissan to convince buyers + 1 actual own ride coz you like it more than the product you are selling. If you let fair competition, you are just worried that it'll affect your sales. That's why.

Yes, worry more because I will spread knowledge amongst every1 so that they'll know how to counter all those false diversion that you and the rest love to use. That'll make the better car wins rather than false perception overshadowing the better cars.


Yes, I have to agree with you that better car wins. You can keep on pouring your sad story all over the forum. Why should I be worried about competition in the automotive industry? It only benefits consumers like me and it is likely I am able to purchase better quality cars at more affordable price too in the future smile_approve.gif Nobody says that ABS is not important but only lousy drivers like you who make generalization about car companies. Please don't shift your ill fate to others. You just can't can't keep on bull shitting about certain cars because people will definitely find out. The Sentra might not meet your expectation but that doesn't mean all Nissan cars are not up to par.

Nobody is diverting. But most of us are just pointing out your mistakes and your misleading opinions. But then, it looks like you are earning more commision then any of us here based on the thousands of bias statements you made in the past. smile_tongue.gif About test reports and material costings, you don't even have any, so you are not qualified to talk about that.

Only salesman like you will be so persistent about your opinions. If you want to do sales, please do elsewhere and keep the forum clean about your nonsense.