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Help On Driving Manual In 1st Gear


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alfredkoh

Posted 13 January 2011 - 10:50 PM

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Help on driving manual in 1st gear
avoid engine stall/die off

got my license not long ago
i drove auto for 2 months plus
now got a manual car
started to drive for like 4 days already
everyday sure engine stall/die off in 1st gear atleast once

cant control well the clutch, and dunno when to stop "releasing" the clutch until the car move and wont stall engine
i know many people here are manual expert
please advise...

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:45 PM

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QUOTE (alfredkoh @ Jan 13 2011, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Help on driving manual in 1st gear
avoid engine stall/die off

got my license not long ago
i drove auto for 2 months plus
now got a manual car
started to drive for like 4 days already
everyday sure engine stall/die off in 1st gear atleast once

cant control well the clutch, and dunno when to stop "releasing" the clutch until the car move and wont stall engine
i know many people here are manual expert
please advise...

Constant light throttle n play with the clutch (slowly release)

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alfredkoh

Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:06 AM

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but i feel pressure when im the 1st 1 in front of traffic light, and always die engine because of it

and as well, i feel the most pressure when stop at hill, especially traffic light

always release clutch too fast but forget paddle oil

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 02:12 AM

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QUOTE (alfredkoh @ Jan 13 2011, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cant control well the clutch, and dunno when to stop "releasing" the clutch until the car move and wont stall engine
i know many people here are manual expert
please advise...


To get know where is the level to stop releasing the clutch, usually there is a point where you will begin feel the slight vibration (in addition, another indication is your rpm meter will begin drop a bit if your car have one). The point level is called 'release point' level. Once you know that 'release point' level, apply throttle lightly at the same time. But don't release the clutch pedal too fast to reduce jerking and possibility of engine stalling.

However, it will usually take some time and also practice to get familiar with your clutch 'release point' level in your car.

Also, if you are the 1st one at traffic light junction, you can engage 1st gear earlier when you feel it's almost ready to take off provided you are familiar with the traffic light sequence at the particular junction.

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 11:53 AM

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QUOTE (jacksonljs @ Jan 14 2011, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To get know where is the level to stop releasing the clutch, usually there is a point where you will begin feel the slight vibration (in addition, another indication is your rpm meter will begin drop a bit if your car have one). The point level is called 'release point' level. Once you know that 'release point' level, apply throttle lightly at the same time. But don't release the clutch pedal too fast to reduce jerking and possibility of engine stalling.

However, it will usually take some time and also practice to get familiar with your clutch 'release point' level in your car.

Also, if you are the 1st one at traffic light junction, you can engage 1st gear earlier when you feel it's almost ready to take off provided you are familiar with the traffic light sequence at the particular junction.

Yup, what he meant is to get the feel of your clutch free play. If loose, the start point of moving is very low, means you let go a little and the car moves and if high then the start point will be high, means you have to release the clutch more before the car moves.
Best way is to release slowly the clutch until you feel the car moves then accelerate slightly more before you release more clutch. If you don't accelerate then the car engine dies off.
Practice makes perfect, so you just have to drive more to get used to it....
If you think of it, then you are not driving. You will be thinking of the clutch, then accelerator, the traffic and so on.
It has to come naturally..... smile_tongue.gif

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 03:23 PM

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QUOTE (vr2turbo @ Jan 14 2011, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yup, what he meant is to get the feel of your clutch free play. If loose, the start point of moving is very low, means you let go a little and the car moves and if high then the start point will be high, means you have to release the clutch more before the car moves.
Best way is to release slowly the clutch until you feel the car moves then accelerate slightly more before you release more clutch. If you don't accelerate then the car engine dies off.
Practice makes perfect, so you just have to drive more to get used to it....
If you think of it, then you are not driving. You will be thinking of the clutch, then accelerator, the traffic and so on.
It has to come naturally..... smile_tongue.gif



no worry, just need to have more practice... smile_thumbup.gif smile_thumbup.gif

when u reach a level where u n ur car become 1 unit, u can easily control her... smile.gif






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Posted 14 January 2011 - 03:27 PM

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QUOTE (jacksonljs @ Jan 14 2011, 02:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To get know where is the level to stop releasing the clutch, usually there is a point where you will begin feel the slight vibration (in addition, another indication is your rpm meter will begin drop a bit if your car have one). The point level is called 'release point' level. Once you know that 'release point' level, apply throttle lightly at the same time. But don't release the clutch pedal too fast to reduce jerking and possibility of engine stalling.

However, it will usually take some time and also practice to get familiar with your clutch 'release point' level in your car.

Also, if you are the 1st one at traffic light junction, you can engage 1st gear earlier when you feel it's almost ready to take off provided you are familiar with the traffic light sequence at the particular junction.


u dont teach him engage 1st gear earlier ler... i saw a case before, accidently release gear and bang other car which pass by... the opponent passage door kemek...



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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

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QUOTE (ntc2000 @ Jan 14 2011, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no worry, just need to have more practice... smile_thumbup.gif smile_thumbup.gif

when u reach a level where u n ur car become 1 unit, u can easily control her... smile.gif

Yup, driving a car must be like you and car become one....... smile_thumbup.gif

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 05:29 PM

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first..

u have to learn to maintain engine rpm roaming around 1000 rpm-1.500 rpm (while in free gear) for a few moment....practice to hold minimum 30 seconds...


then....find a flat open area (empty parking lot most likely)....

put in 1st gear....(with clutch fully pressed)....

then slowly release the clutch real slow (release mm by mm..not inches by inches if u know what i mean)...until u feels like the car starts to moves....don't touch accelerator pedal yet....


in fact....playing with that point of clutch release...get use to the point where the car starts to move.....if u were good enough then u should be able to move the car even without pressing accelerator pedal....



*keep in mind dont play with clutch more than 1minutes or else risk of burning clutch....to give the car some rest..repeat throttle control practiced earlier.......



#the next step is....combine both technique....maintain the roaming rpm 1000-1500 while releasing the clutch...when the clutch biting point comes,the rpm would drop....so u need to keep up throttle to balance back and maintain the rpm range 1000-1500.....



i bet within a few hour of doing this u can handle almost any sorts of stop n go situation.....


*steep hill start tips....mesmerize back your driving shcool test during hill climb.....and find a similiar place and safe enough to practice....

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:00 PM

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QUOTE (rallychamp @ Jan 14 2011, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*keep in mind dont play with clutch more than 1minutes or else risk of burning clutch....to give the car some rest..repeat throttle control practiced earlier.......

*steep hill start tips....mesmerize back your driving shcool test during hill climb.....and find a similiar place and safe enough to practice....

If don't keep slipping the clutch should be okay...... smile_tongue.gif

For Hill slope, actually do the same, only accelerate more and release hand brakes.... smile_wink.gif