[darreltian]

more independent body review.... http://www.topspeed....ic-ar92217.html

torsion beam = bad ride and handling ???
RUBBISH

[darreltian]

The GEMA engine from Hyundai-Kia Motors R&D CenterThe GEMA engine. Hyundai-Kia Motors R&DCenter received US$57 million in royalties from Mitsubishi and Chryslerfor the Theta engine. I guess that means Hyundai-Kia holds most of theintellectual property for the engine and Mitsu/Chrysler were more likecustomers. Here's some info:

Some info on the fuel-efficient Kia Rondo 2.0L DOHC CVVT Theta II engine. Here's the CVVT vendor - http://www.morsetec.com/ and the GEMA site - http://www.gemaengine.com/ which doesn't seem to be pushed by the alliance any more these days.

The Hyundai-Kia Theta (G4KC) is a gasoline 4-cylinder automobileengine family. This is the third all-aluminum engine of Hyundai MotorCompany debuted in the fourth-generation Hyundai Sonata sedan(codenamedNF) and Kia Optima (codenamed MG).

It features hollow stainless-steel DOHC with powder-metal camlobes, pent-roof combustion chamber and shimless bucket tappets in thecylinder head. BorgWarner Morse TEC supplies the complete set of timingsystem that uses the company's proprietary silent timing chains.CVVT(Continuously-variable valve timing) works on the intake side.

The aluminum alloy engine block, which is formed usinghigh-pressure die-cast method, has a unique Metaldyne-suppliedcassette-type balance shaft module with a two-stage oil pump built-in.In the lower-end, the block is reinforced by a ladder frame. Othernotable features include fracture-split sinter-forged connecting rodsand stainless-steel exhaust manifold.

Theta's EMS(engine management system) software is EMS-II fromSiemens VDO and the 32-bit PCM(Powertrain Control Module) calculatesthe amount of intake air by utilizing a contamination-proof hot-filmtype MAF(mass air flow) sensor.

Chrysler Corporation began production of a modified version ofTheta, dubbed World Engine, in Dundee, Michigan in October 2005.Chrysler engineered their own air intake system and exhaust manifoldwhich is made of gray cast iron. The World Engine also differs in theEMS as it measures the amount of intake air indirectly using a MAPsensor, another cost-saving feature of the Chrysler-modified engine.

Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama (HMMA) is currently building aTheta II engine shop on the grounds of their Montgomery, Alabamaautomobile factory. The shop will build only the Theta II engine forboth the Hyundai plant and the new Kia Plant in West Point, GA. It isscheduled to be completed by August 2008.


The engine is used in:


HYUNDAI-KIA

Kia RONDO

Kia OPTIMA

Kia FORTE

Kia FORTE KOUP

Hyundai SONATA

Hyundai GENESIS COUPE 2.0




MITSUBISHI (4B1)

Mitsubishi LANCER




CHRYSLER

Dodge Caliber

Jeep Patriot 4x2

Jeep Compass 4x2

Dodge Avenger (Export)

Chrylser Sebring (Export)

[Informer]

more independent body review.... http://www.topspeed....ic-ar92217.html

torsion beam = bad ride and handling ???
RUBBISH

What..!
Kia Forte got 1st. place..?
From the review, that foreign Forte got 10 years/ 100,000 miles warranty...
So... it should have won...

Here in BolehLand, besides reliability, resale value, branding, etc., things are otherwise...
Sometimes cars at their original state are darn good with load of specs...
When reach BolehLand, due to price issues (yeah... even a nut on a car is taxed)...
We won't get any of the gizmos tech, features, warranty, etc...

I always feel, we are treated as 3rd. Class citizens in terms of cars when it comes to safety, tech, features, warranty, consumer satisfaction, etc....
Just need to except that fact of life...

[enduser]

I always feel, we are treated as 3rd. Class citizens in terms of cars when it comes to safety, tech, features, warranty, consumer satisfaction, etc....
Just need to except that fact of life...

i quote whats tn syed says bout this

-----quote---
The Government is reducing the subsidies. That we can accept. We have to pay more for fuel, food etc. We can accept that. But when it comes to cars, quite obviously it is the general public which is subsidising the Government plus the select few by paying through our noses for cars.

If the Government reduces subsidies for the rakyat, then also reduce the prices of cars. Takkan we lose our subsidies but we still keep subsidising the Government and the AP holders? Lojik tak ada.

I really hope that the price of cars in Malaysia (all cars, all makes) will come down drastically before the next general elections. Otherwise I think they will come down after the next general elections.

-------------end quote----------

http://syedsoutsidet...des-prices.html

sorry for OT

[Informer]

i quote whats tn syed says bout this

-----quote---
The Government is reducing the subsidies. That we can accept. We have to pay more for fuel, food etc. We can accept that. But when it comes to cars, quite obviously it is the general public which is subsidising the Government plus the select few by paying through our noses for cars.

If the Government reduces subsidies for the rakyat, then also reduce the prices of cars. Takkan we lose our subsidies but we still keep subsidising the Government and the AP holders? Lojik tak ada.

I really hope that the price of cars in Malaysia (all cars, all makes) will come down drastically before the next general elections. Otherwise I think they will come down after the next general elections.
-------------end quote----------

http://syedsoutsidet...des-prices.html

sorry for OT

Just adore people that think "out-syed the box"...
Nice...

[darreltian]

happend at mid-valley parking lot...
either the driver wanted to verify the given 4-star safety ratings, drunk, forgot to unlock 'brake lock' or a female driver

[Informer]

happend at mid-valley parking lot...
either the driver wanted to verify the given 4-star safety ratings, drunk, forgot to unlock 'brake lock' or a female driver

Darn sad story...
Pity... New car...
The NCAP proves the ratings is genuine...
Kia Forte proved to be stronger than the railing and the wall...
Naza KIA SA's should print this to boost sales...
or this proves that our "buildings" are build-ed using low quality materials..

[darreltian]

Darn sad story...
Pity... New car...
The NCAP proves the ratings is genuine...
Kia Forte proved to be stronger than the railing and the wall...
Naza KIA SA's should print this to boost sales...

i worry mid-valley management will ban forte to their parkings later...

[Informer]

i worry mid-valley management will ban forte to their parkings later...

Or worst still... All Koreans makes cars...

[nofear1979]

What..!
Kia Forte got 1st. place..?
From the review, that foreign Forte got 10 years/ 100,000 miles warranty...
So... it should have won...

Here in BolehLand, besides reliability, resale value, branding, etc., things are otherwise...
Sometimes cars at their original state are darn good with load of specs...
When reach BolehLand, due to price issues (yeah... even a nut on a car is taxed)...
We won't get any of the gizmos tech, features, warranty, etc...

I always feel, we are treated as 3rd. Class citizens in terms of cars when it comes to safety, tech, features, warranty, consumer satisfaction, etc....
Just need to except that fact of life...

lancer GT in US & Canada, has:-

1) sun roof
2) 7 air bags..!!!!
3) Traction control
4) Smart key (keyless)
5) bluetooth
6) Rockford Fosgate (& 10 inches sub-woofer)
7) Manual Transmission??
8) Heated Seat
9) Autocruise control