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is it FIAT a problematic car?


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Jamess316

Posted 24 August 2003 - 04:17 PM

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say, i have read some of these threads in fiat , and i must say, fiat
quality is just like waja.overheat all the time, geabox kong, what else?
no wonder fiat have a veli bad resale value.even if god give me free fiat
car, i better ditch the car and better ride my bike dude.

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subsonique

Posted 24 August 2003 - 04:21 PM

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fiat is not a problematic car, really. it is more the owner than the car
that is problematic. normally the initial owner of a car, if he took good
care of his fiat, none of craps would happen. about overheating, more
likely can be settled in nick of time. jsut some minor stuff, could be
the fan motor gone due to it's time, bubble in the radiator and also
fuse blown. simple culprits, but solved instantly. and james, even if
god gave you free fiat car, be it stilo especially, please ditch it into my
garage and i'd definitely tell him to bless you for as long as you live,
hehe. for me, i will not turn my back on fiat anymore, maybe own
another car, be it altezza or 147, but to ditch my bravo, well i don't think
so. even if i ditched my bravo, i'll get another bravo.

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john

Posted 24 August 2003 - 04:53 PM

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I beg to differ. I have an Ulysse Diesel. In my 3+ years that I`ve owned
it, the following are my problems

1 Clutch cable - changed 4 times
2. Belt tensioner, two types - changed 4 times. (from the airport limo
mechanics. Change every two months or so.)
3. Overhaul - once but due to my fault. Slightly overheated the car
going to Genting. But then should the car be overheated ? Been up
so many times with my other cars - no problem
4. Fan - changed once.
5. Room linning fell apart. Had to replace.
6. Wing mirror , both side not retracting as it should since the 2nd
year. No point replacing. Too costly.
7. Immobiliser - gave me so much problem. Replaced once.
8. Alarm - goes cuckoo. Self arming, self trigger. Now not functioning
but hey, I`m not complaining. No more of the siren.
9 Gearbox - synchromesh rings koyak.
10. Electrics - Little problems here and there
11. ABS lights up but still working. Took out the bulb since the ABS is
working fine.

Best of all, go to Torino with one problem, comes out 3 problems. But
yet, I still love the car. Very comfortable to drive. Spent an average $7K
a year on maintenance. Luckily its diesel, so save a bit. Till now, I still
can`t find a better replacement without paying thru my nose. Still
looking 4 a reliable mechanic.

Problems ada but I don`t think its our fault all the time. Some parts
just don`t last but hey, the vehicle is 6 years old now and I`m still on
original absorbers.





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subsonique

Posted 24 August 2003 - 06:31 PM

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well, different people with different opinion, hehe, anyway john, where
do you always send your ulysse to? torino? anyway, me too had an
overhaul a few months back, it got overheated and i did not notice it
until my cousin rushed form the bakc to tell me about it. but by the n
it's too late since it's been hot for a long period, my fault. but still none
to be blamed as it happened due to the broken rubber stopper,
jammed the thermostat and no water flowing, thus ran into my engine
block. haha bad experience though, but so far nothing beats owning
an italian muscle.

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johanbrian

Posted 25 August 2003 - 10:59 AM

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Jamess316, what was your point with this thread? are you just trying to
condemn the model or just offering your 1 baht worth of point of view?

let me tell you something. my dad, like subsoniques dad too, owned fiats
all their lives. when i got my first car, which was a honda civic, i never
thought that i'd go the other way round - which is to own a fiat. our
fathers never liked japanese car which i wondered why.

now, after owning two hondas, i bought myself a fiat. and let me tell you
something - it's one hell of an experience driving it! beats the heck out
of driving a national car that's for sure. if you've never owned or driven
a fiat, it's better to just not make a comment about it coz you've never
experienced driving or even owning one so you don't have a bit of a clue
of what's it like. like subsonique always says - it's a love and hate
relationship when you own one.

when you said problematic - in what way is it being a problem? doesn't all
cars - new or old, have problems? new national car on the way being
delivered stalls along the way - isn't there a problem? all cars overheat.
why does fiat overheat so much? mine does from time to time but i am not
complaining coz i know why which you don't.

quality like Waja?????? you gotta be kdding!

gearbox kong? i have been driving around for the past 6 months without
knowing i didn't have enough or none at all gearbox oil and have driven to
Penang once, Melaka thrice and Muar once. nothing happened...

bad resale value - it'skay i guess. national car good resale value but no
one seems to be buying them anyway. why????????

so what car do you drive? a juwara perhaps.........

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weecp

Posted 25 August 2003 - 12:13 PM

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My 97 Ulysse (petrol version) have not add a drop a coolant in a straight
3 years. Until now I have not encountered any overheat problem. To
maintain our car in good condition, we need to more sensitive to the
performance of the car and pay more attention instrument panel.

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SubVerSiv

Posted 25 August 2003 - 01:23 PM

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Friend,

A problematic car is a problematic car. Honda can be problematic, Proton
can be problematic, Perodua can be problematic, Fiat can be problematic.
Causes of the problems?

1. Bad maintenance;
2. Bad design.

On Fiat being problematic, I can only find one fault which can be
considered as a case of bad design: the aircond.

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songx

Posted 25 August 2003 - 03:31 PM

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guys

pls ignore this Jamesss316


he is a troll migrating from the NMT forum. Just dont confuse him with
another forumer by the name James316.

BTW, SubVersiv, i agree: the a/c is not FIAT's brightest moments in car
design. but bear in mind that a/c is not a big option in Europe. ( unless
only recently with all the heatwave...)



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gtfan

Posted 25 August 2003 - 05:17 PM

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hmmm....hahah regarding the aircon issue, i think the newer Fiat had less
problem as compared to the 96 or 97 batch. My coupe which is 97 but
registered 98....aircon is good....cold like my ex-putra....but added
advantage, can use heater in genting....kakakaka.

I found out that even the new punto had a very good aircon. Test drove
one a week back with a fren of mine whom i intro her to the world of
italian car and realised it was very cold as compared to the older
version punto selecta. Then again, those owners with older punto need not
worries, there's always an option to fix....just pay rm1K ++ u get a very
cold one. My fren Alfa TI also had the same problem but after spending
some money on the aircon, it's cold like fridge.

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subsonique

Posted 25 August 2003 - 05:54 PM

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songx, damn it, i nearly got conned. because i know taht james316 is a
good person, that is why i was being relaxed a little. i didn't see the
double s inhis nick. man, get a real nick for yourself and stop spoilling
other nicks.