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Joytoy
Posted 19 February 2010 - 09:07 AM
Toyota Oil cannot match Mobil 1
Why do you say this?
What evidence for you to say so firmly on this statement?
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maxillain
Posted 19 February 2010 - 04:44 PM
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Why do you say this?
What evidence for you to say so firmly on this statement?
It so easy to prove
1) Toyota is not a engine oil mfg. they bought others enginer oil example Penzoil oil and name it under Toyota
2) If you have a Vios or other low rev VVTI engine car, then u can changed it and feel it yourself. The engine and sound and performance are totally difference
3) After 4000 km travel , check yr engine oil again and M1 still appeared to be light yellow gold color and Toyota oil starts to turn black
4) After 10000 km , check yr engine oil again it the M1 still has oily feel
Nobody can give u any evidence , the best is you yourself go and try it and see it yourself
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fkmfkm
Posted 19 February 2010 - 10:36 PM
It so easy to prove
1) Toyota is not a engine oil mfg. they bought others enginer oil example Penzoil oil and name it under Toyota
2) If you have a Vios or other low rev VVTI engine car, then u can changed it and feel it yourself. The engine and sound and performance are totally difference
3) After 4000 km travel , check yr engine oil again and M1 still appeared to be light yellow gold color and Toyota oil starts to turn black
4) After 10000 km , check yr engine oil again it the M1 still has oily feel
Nobody can give u any evidence , the best is you yourself go and try it and see it yourself
oil sure turn black lah...if no turn back..susah lah..they dont call it black oil..haha..
but m1 is good oil haha...
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alldisc
Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:17 PM
It so easy to prove
1) Toyota is not a engine oil mfg. they bought others enginer oil example Penzoil oil and name it under Toyota
2) If you have a Vios or other low rev VVTI engine car, then u can changed it and feel it yourself. The engine and sound and performance are totally difference
3) After 4000 km travel , check yr engine oil again and M1 still appeared to be light yellow gold color and Toyota oil starts to turn black
4) After 10000 km , check yr engine oil again it the M1 still has oily feel
Nobody can give u any evidence , the best is you yourself go and try it and see it yourself
toyota not engine oil manufacturer, says who?
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alldisc
Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:20 PM
Base on the car manual 15-30W mineral oil is ok for Vios. But have being using full synthetic since first oil changed using Toyota Oil Full Synthetic 5W-40. Later i tried using Mobil 1 full synthetic 5W - 40 and the perfoamnce and engine feel more better and quieter and has being continue using Mobil 1 5W-40 . But now the Mobil Petol station seldom selling 5W- 40 and mostly selling 5W- 50 and so now now using 5W - 50
Toyota Oil cannot match Mobil 1
unfortunately, mobil cannot even produce even one engine.
toyota has its own motor oil gear oil, brake fluid, ATF as well as coolant. the history of Toyota motor oil goes back to early 1980s. toyota was the first car manufacturer to produce its own engine oil in the world.
ferrari? NO
BMW? NO
Subaru? NO
please take initiative to learn something using reliable sources.
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fkmfkm
Posted 20 February 2010 - 01:53 PM
toyota not engine oil manufacturer, says who?
maybe they buy the base oil...
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fkmfkm
Posted 20 February 2010 - 02:19 PM
maybe they buy the base oil...
or maybe mobil makes toyota oil !
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 03:35 AM
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unfortunately, mobil cannot even produce even one engine.
toyota has its own motor oil gear oil, brake fluid, ATF as well as coolant. the history of Toyota motor oil goes back to early 1980s. toyota was the first car manufacturer to produce its own engine oil in the world.
ferrari? NO
BMW? NO
Subaru? NO
please take initiative to learn something using reliable sources.
Yes of course , Mobil cannot produce one engine because they are not car manufacturer and they are engine oil manufacturer
If you think Toyota can produce their own engine oil themselves then go ahead and use it.
Common sense will tell you why does all others big car manufacturers as mention by you and also pothers like Merc , VW and Ford don't produce engine oil because they know that they cannot beat this engine oil manufacturer as they required the crude oil to produce it and groups of scientist to do it for synthetic oil. Toyota may had done some R & D and invented the oil but cannot proceed further as it is not economical to sustain because inventing the engine oil only for Toyota car ?
Cpmmon sense will tell you they are buying from other oil manufacturer
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Joytoy
Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:58 PM
Yes of course , Mobil cannot produce one engine because they are not car manufacturer and they are engine oil manufacturer
If you think Toyota can produce their own engine oil themselves then go ahead and use it.
Common sense will tell you why does all others big car manufacturers as mention by you and also pothers like Merc , VW and Ford don't produce engine oil because they know that they cannot beat this engine oil manufacturer as they required the crude oil to produce it and groups of scientist to do it for synthetic oil. Toyota may had done some R & D and invented the oil but cannot proceed further as it is not economical to sustain because inventing the engine oil only for Toyota car ?
Cpmmon sense will tell you they are buying from other oil manufacturer
But Mobil's core business is not in manufacturing engine oil as well. They refine & distribute petrol/diesel.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:41 PM
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But Mobil's core business is not in manufacturing engine oil as well. They refine & distribute petrol/diesel.
Hello
If you refer to Mobil website. Mobil is under the Exxon Mobil in the others country. Refer to state below from their website. Mobil is th world lasgest oil and gas company
About us
We are the world's largest publicly traded international oil and gas company, providing energy that helps underpin growing economies and improve living standards around the world.
For mineral type engine oil. it is one of the product from their refinery process
Read more from
http://www.mobil.com