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#31
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 01:23 AM

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bro skytan aledi lari far far away laa smile_cry.gif smile_cry.gif

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 02:33 PM

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QUOTE (TheGunner @ Sep 7 2009, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
skye, from the way you have been responding, I trust you are someone who's not put down easily by criticism. The fact that you dare to put your design out for public scrutiny shows that you also possess a great deal of belief your work and ability.

These qualities will get you far, and I sincerely wish you the best in your life and ventures.

If you ask me, the drawing of your Kancil is a design that still lacks maturity and refinement, though you get full marks for audacity (another plus point). You still have plenty of work to do, but I encourage you to follow this path nonetheless.

Another point you need to consider is that, in order to successfully market a product, you need to know your customers and you need to know the industry. You need to know what your customers want, and also you need to know the who's who in the industry. For this, you need experience and you need contacts.

No matter how brilliant your product / business plan is, you can't go far without building your reputation, a network of contacts, and experience. So, you'll need to get yourself a job, part time or full time, that allows you to get close to various personalities in the auto industry. Once your name is known, with a good reputation to back it up, the world is at your feet.

Keep on working on these ideas of yours, continue to refine them.

To share with you my experience, I'm also a new player in the industry as a writer. So, I acknowledge that as a newbie, I don't get the same preferential treatment as some of the senior journalists when it comes to event invites and test drives.

It is a reality that I accept for the moment, because to many people established in the industry, I am an unknown quantity. The onus is on me to prove myself, and cement my place among the top writers in the country. At the moment, it's all about me refining my various skill sets, and also building up my network of contacts among the other journalists and PR people. It's not easy, it's a long road, but that's the way the world works.



Thanks for sharing the info... I have considered what you have typed before, getting perhaps into Proton for a couple of years just to see how things work, how they run their business and stuff but I'm afraid opportunities like these rarely open for newbies like me... That's where I'm stuck at, not knowing how to enter the industry in the first place... There is however, a way that I know, which is to get the Yayasan Proton scholarship, then be bonded with them for five years, so currently I can only wait for the reopening of the scholarship application... Anyone got any info on this please feel free to post... Once again, thanks for those commenting...


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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:23 AM

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QUOTE (TheGunner @ Sep 7 2009, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can't assume everyone knows me mar. smile_big.gif


Sorry, I don't know "The Gunner".....as I am just a newbie in Auto mag readership smile_blush.gif

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 12:35 AM

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QUOTE (profkaizen @ Sep 11 2009, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I don't know "The Gunner".....as I am just a newbie in Auto mag readership smile_blush.gif


I'm just a newbie writer also la.. hahahaha.
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Posted 12 September 2009 - 10:42 PM

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QUOTE (skyetan @ Sep 10 2009, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for sharing the info... I have considered what you have typed before, getting perhaps into Proton for a couple of years just to see how things work, how they run their business and stuff but I'm afraid opportunities like these rarely open for newbies like me... That's where I'm stuck at, not knowing how to enter the industry in the first place... There is however, a way that I know, which is to get the Yayasan Proton scholarship, then be bonded with them for five years, so currently I can only wait for the reopening of the scholarship application... Anyone got any info on this please feel free to post... Once again, thanks for those commenting...


to me, common sense when entering into any business field is the same. First and foremost is interest, then capability/ability, then opportunity. obviously i see that you have the interest. next u need to build on your experience and knowledge so that you are able to succeed. This can be through on-job experience or education or both. Next is opportunity, which is the most difficult especially in msia - regardess or your race. Automotive, especially the sales area is an overly protected area which is currently opened only to selected few. So, either u are one of these few, or u must be affiliated with one. hopefully, this will change in the future, so don't give up.

BTW, in my opinion, to get attached with the big player (such as p1, p2, naza, etc.) may be difficult if u are an outsider. I believe there're smaller players and parts manufacturers who're not tightly linked to the g who may give u a better opportunity.

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 11:40 AM

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QUOTE (Along @ Sep 12 2009, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
to me, common sense when entering into any business field is the same. First and foremost is interest, then capability/ability, then opportunity. obviously i see that you have the interest. next u need to build on your experience and knowledge so that you are able to succeed. This can be through on-job experience or education or both. Next is opportunity, which is the most difficult especially in msia - regardess or your race. Automotive, especially the sales area is an overly protected area which is currently opened only to selected few. So, either u are one of these few, or u must be affiliated with one. hopefully, this will change in the future, so don't give up.

BTW, in my opinion, to get attached with the big player (such as p1, p2, naza, etc.) may be difficult if u are an outsider. I believe there're smaller players and parts manufacturers who're not tightly linked to the g who may give u a better opportunity.


Very nicely put. I was once in skyetan's position not too long ago. I had a Mechanical Engineering degree, and was itching to work in auto industry, but just couldn't get in. I absolutely chanced upon the fact that AW had an opening for a writer. I was initially working in another 9-5 job in another industry, but after much thought, I decided to come over.
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Posted 13 September 2009 - 01:24 PM

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QUOTE (Along @ Sep 12 2009, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
to me, common sense when entering into any business field is the same. First and foremost is interest, then capability/ability, then opportunity. obviously i see that you have the interest. next u need to build on your experience and knowledge so that you are able to succeed. This can be through on-job experience or education or both. Next is opportunity, which is the most difficult especially in msia - regardess or your race. Automotive, especially the sales area is an overly protected area which is currently opened only to selected few. So, either u are one of these few, or u must be affiliated with one. hopefully, this will change in the future, so don't give up.

BTW, in my opinion, to get attached with the big player (such as p1, p2, naza, etc.) may be difficult if u are an outsider. I believe there're smaller players and parts manufacturers who're not tightly linked to the g who may give u a better opportunity.



Oh, thanks for letting me know about another opportunity which I have missed... Now that you've mentioned it, I agree with what you have just said (what a relief to know that the opportunities in this field for me has grown a bit), perhaps I could get involved in the modification sector to try to build my reputations and connections, then try to link back to automotive... Thanks for the info... Now, as you guys know, I gotta broaden up my connections, so, I'm pretty much depending on you guys to help... Nevertheless, its okay if you can't, I realize how difficult it is to know somebody in this field...

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Posted 13 September 2009 - 08:21 PM

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QUOTE (skyetan @ Sep 13 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, thanks for letting me know about another opportunity which I have missed... Now that you've mentioned it, I agree with what you have just said (what a relief to know that the opportunities in this field for me has grown a bit), perhaps I could get involved in the modification sector to try to build my reputations and connections, then try to link back to automotive... Thanks for the info... Now, as you guys know, I gotta broaden up my connections, so, I'm pretty much depending on you guys to help... Nevertheless, its okay if you can't, I realize how difficult it is to know somebody in this field...


as what sifu TheGunner mentioned, i also happen to believe that getting into the motoring media is the fastest way of broadening and establishing your connections and knowledge regarding the automotive industry. I suggest start with the local media and then move to regional or international.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 09:01 PM

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Just sharing an info with everybody out there, my friend had an even harder dream to achieve if compared to me. His intention was to establish an airline company, which reminds me of how lucky I am if compared to him, which is why i made a deal with him saying that when my goal is achieved, I would help him achieve his and vice versa. So, people, again, if any of you know anything which can help him or me achieve our dreams (I have to admit its a bit wild, though) just try to help... Appreciated it.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 10:01 PM

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QUOTE (skyetan @ Sep 22 2009, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just sharing an info with everybody out there, my friend had an even harder dream to achieve if compared to me. His intention was to establish an airline company, which reminds me of how lucky I am if compared to him, which is why i made a deal with him saying that when my goal is achieved, I would help him achieve his and vice versa. So, people, again, if any of you know anything which can help him or me achieve our dreams (I have to admit its a bit wild, though) just try to help... Appreciated it.


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