Hi Ian,
Drifting...is a slide, loosing traction or just plainly going sideways in
oversteer mode. The drift is in a controlled fashion, it is a drift
or 'sliding it'. Even if the car was sliding or drifing into a spin, it
is 'WAS' still a drift before the car spun out. ( takes a while to know
the limit )
- Drifting is more than just that. It the car spun while sliding or
drifting, I would rather named it 'lost control'. LOL
A front wheel drive car, can virtually do the same, given the right
conditions, a FWD car will slide and matching the rear wheel drives,
corner for corner. Given anyday, a front wheel drive car, will do the
same as the rear wheel drives.
- What condition? Can be more specific ah? What if the condition is not
right? Would you call turn 1,2&3 or turn 7&8 of Sepang the 'right'
condition?
BTCC comes with FR and FF and also AWD. Audi 4wd, Renault Laguna FF, and
BMW FR. The cars were basically fairly similar round the tracks, and
times. It was really hard to say when the cars were not as quick or not
in control or not in drift moments for both FWD or AWD or RWD.
- I don't see the point here. BTCC is not a drift oriented competition.
In the latest drift event, the cars were judged on style, speed, & drift.
Clearly all cars, were doing their best. Obviously the front wheel drive
was not able to hold the sideways longer as the track was tightening in
the end section, and the momentum in the FWD car was just not enough. If
the track was different, the story would have been different for either
drivetrains.
- Well drifting not only utilises momentum, but creates momentum too. The
inadequate momentum in a FWD is not to be blamed. The track is perfectly
setup for entry-level drift, if you can't tackle it, don't hope for
miracles to happen.
On loose surfaces, the RWD car can execute the slide easier by powering
out to loose rear traction. But if it was dry with lots of grip, one
would still need to do the scandinavian flick and weight transfer to get
the tail out, and whip it the opposite direction for the turn. There are
classes for that.
- There are more ways to break traction on a RWD in grippy surface other
than the scandinavian flick.
Anyways, the Ford RS was a FWD and AUTOMATIC. It takes a bit of driver's
skill to make it to the final 3 and taking the 3rd place. But let again,
it proves that anycar can drift, only a matter of what method to use for
what type of drivetrain to get the car going sideways. And to
quote "NEVER SEND A FF TO DO A FR JOB" ...hahahaha, i think it should
be "NEVER SEND A FF THAT CAN DO A FR JOB"......hahahah...
- Well I think it takes a bit of luck too LOL. It just proves that a FF
can slide but can't maintain it ie. drift. Get over with it. There is no
FF that can do a FR job or vice versa. It's like comparing apples with
oranges. Drifting IS a sport meant for FR and it will be. Well not if
someone comes up with the F4 competition in future LOL.
The car was sent as the handling characteristics are simply amazing. In
very peculiar or normal conditions, the car is easy to handle and drive.
The competition was for all, based on speed, style, drift. Well it did
just that, nothing mentioned on FF in the end of the day. Having a FF,
does not mean you are not a drifter. Having a FR does not mean you are a
drifter also. Having either FF or FR is just a car, to get from A to B.
Only matters if you want to go sideways, what method should apply to get
the FR or FF to go sideways.
- No doubt the car handles quite well (and fast too!). But like I said, a
true drifter is a FR drifter. Going sideways momentarily is still afar
from what a true drift is all about.
Just because everyone/majority thinks that only FR cars can drift ( as
shown only "D1" uses RWD or Initial D cartoons ) it does not mean that
FR's can't do that also. It is sad to see that, that assumption has been
made by most people. (due to lack of exposure, only now got such thing as
Initial D ) If FR's cannot d ded oilP
Close
do we have Drifting class in m'sia ?
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jiaojiao
, Apr 29 2004 07:24 PM, 85 replies to this topic