215/45r17 GOODYEAR F1
Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:59 PM
problem with your argument is that I subjected both tires to the same
kinda environment for an extended period of time:
- Tyre pressures are constantly checked and maintained at 34psi in the
front and 32 psi at the rear.
- I travel along the same roads at least 75% of the time.
- There's no more than 2 people in the car with no extraordinary luggage
in tow. In short, no huge variances in load weight at any one time.
- Malaysia's year-round tropical climate means that ambient temperatures
are constant almost 100% of the time.
Posted 04 January 2005 - 04:04 PM
>>- Tyre pressures are constantly checked and maintained at 34psi in the
front and 32 psi at the rear. >>
tires heat up differently at different times, different kinda driving, diff
variation on the road condition
>>I travel along the same roads at least 75% of the time. >>
the other 25%?
>>There's no more than 2 people in the car with no extraordinary luggage
in tow. In short, no huge variances in load weight at any one time. >>
u might have relieved urself in the toilet, had a heavy meal, had plenty of
GDs, etc, etc.
>>- Malaysia's year-round tropical climate means that ambient temperatures
are constant almost 100% of the time.>>
not that true lar...road temperature fluctuates a lot lar, depending on
traffic condition, ambient, ur car speed, etc...
Posted 04 January 2005 - 04:20 PM
AlfaM, noticed that you underinflate your tyres based on the manuals'
recommendations....34/32 psi * 0.06895 gives about 2.3/2.2 bar. I recall
the manual stating 2.4/2.3 bar, but add 0.3 bar if hot...whats the jizz?
Posted 04 January 2005 - 05:36 PM
starting to involve molecules, dna etc.. hehehehe!
at the end it depends on how u drive too. no point getting the creme de la
creme but at the end u drive like a granny on the road. unless u have a
strong kiasu factor in ur dna.
Posted 04 January 2005 - 10:23 PM
more than 1000kms so I cannot really judge as to the effect of wear on its dry and wet weather
capability. All I can state with confidence is that it is one of the more comfort bias 17 in tires out
I haven't had any issue with wet weather driving and felt it was quite good. Not surprising given
the ample channels on the tire. The C drives are not a replacement for the ES100 but a
replacement for the A539.
Indeed they do have soft sidewalls but a necessary evil so to improve shock absorption as the
sidewalls act a primary damper. of course the downside is turn in response has been
Compared to the original Pirellis that came with the Mini I have definitely felt a performance lost
especially in terms of response and steering feel but not on all out grip. it is the compromise
that must be had in order to achieve this level of comfort. The Mini Cooper S comes equipped
with what they call Sport Suspension Plus so the springs are quite stiff. In order for me to gain
some level of compliancy I had to work on the tires and hence chose the C Drives. if I could opt
for standard and softer suspension it would then make more sense to use a better performance
tire like the F1s.
All in all, it depends on what your needs are. If your car has relatively standard suspension then
any one of the ultra high performance tires will still give an acceptable ride. If you have stiff
sport suspension then be prepared to have a quite a stiff ride with some of the ultra high
I had S02s on my Elise before and the ride was just plain horrible. track suspension with stiff
sidewalls gave one helluva jittery ride and frankly made the car nervous over the bumps. It was
only when I switched to Lotus tires made by Yokohama that the ride became beareable.
If I had a standard 147, then i would go with the F1s. I believe the ride would still be acceptable.
in fact, I may turn my Mini to a weekend car and get the F1s anyway...anyone want to buy slightly
used C Drives?
Posted 05 January 2005 - 10:38 AM
Dei, you have always been an arsehole. The only difference now is that you
have come out from your closet
Ain't gonna argue about this further. Bottom line : Thai GY F1s are not as
good as the German F1s. At least in my world.
Posted 05 January 2005 - 10:44 AM
without one, and had to go under the knife to make one. no jokes there...
in your make-believe world, everything u r running now is the best lar.
baskit! so go and pay the top moolah for those german GY GSD3 now, if u can
Posted 05 January 2005 - 10:51 AM
I gotta agree with you that the Mini Cooper S' suspensions ain't exactly
tuned to 'comfort' but isn't this expected in the very first instance?
After all, it is targeted at the sports car enthusiast and comfort isn't
exactly on the minds of both car manufacturer and car buyer. I was riding
in one recently and the ride's jarring, to say the least. I could feel
every little bump and tiny pebble on the road.
Well, to me handling and comfort doesn't go hand in hand. Some kinda
sacrifice is required if one wants better handling and vice versa. It's
difficult trying to get the best of both worlds.
Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:21 AM
read the last few month's Autocar Asean. There's an article/interview
with the regional GY MD, some kwai loh who specifically mentioned that
the Thai made F1 are genetically different to suit Asian requirements and
needs. Apalah dei!!!
And for the record, the German made ones are definitely better than the
Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:26 AM
tyre is 8mm depth. 7-8mm depth you get 100% warranty. 6mm and above you
get 50% warranty. And this warranty is for anything that damages the
For those looking for German F1s, better get them quick cos they are
running out fast and the new batches that come in will be a lot more
Thai F1's - There are a lot of Thai made things I would love to touch,
some even to do much more than just touching , but the Thai-made F1
is definitely not one of them!!!