Range Rover MKii Workshops?
Posted 18 July 2003 - 04:21 PM
since you are discussing about disco suspension I will like to share with
the information of disco I took from the workshop manual.
Mine is 1996 300TDi disco.
Basically the disco suspension is coil spring and absorbers. According to
the manual the suspensions are:
1.Front Suspension consist of :
-Panhard Rod - transverse location
-Radius Arms - longitudinal location
Long travel coil springs and hydraulic shock absorbers, provide the
springing for each wheel.
2. Rear Axle suspension consist of
-"A" frame, upper link assembly - transverse location
-Lower link assembly - longitudinal location
talking about nvh? Ha! mine is a diesel!
Posted 19 July 2003 - 04:29 AM
Cost currently considering getting a Ford Ranger or a Storm since i
travel quite often from where i stay, Ampang to Shah Alam or Sepang.
Though it will never have the same quirky character, headaches, excellent
ride, and great offroad finesse do u think it is a worthwhile
justification to get a diesel pickup since they seem to enjoy blowing me
at the traffic lights?
I got your email.
Unfortunately not next weekend as i would be going outstation. But
definitely will try to get in touch. Hmm i wonder if anyone has Yamin
Vong since he is a LR buff too. Havent seen him for a while. Have a TT
session in Ampang since i'm around here =D.
the last batch of the RR classic are the bomb man. Just need to convert
the airsprings to coils and they will rock. I was like shocked the other
day when Harith( Mobil) got his 1995LSE new from LRM for only a miserable
40k..... What a bargain, cheapest luxury buy i've heard man. Wow if i
knew they were ridding their old stocks at that sort of price i'll grab
As for my dad's 4.6HIGHLY SENSITIVE ELECTRONICS the fault been diaganose
and hopefully i can pick it up tomorrow together with hopefully NOT a
heafty bill. Burnt solonoid and tranfer case ECU.
Oh lastly as a Disco owner, dont u find it surprising that the Disco
doesnt come with self levelling on the series 1? As compared to the RR
which came with a Boge Hydromat on the A frame upperlink assembly?
Not that it matters though.
Posted 19 July 2003 - 11:08 AM
Babygod, guess a pick-up would do nicely as well. The fuel bill would not
eat you dry. For daily commuting & work purposes eh? Would like to own a
pick-up too. Saw a defender pick-up in the net once and loved it! Not as
beautiful as storm but definitely it would make heads turn. Series and
Defender have that intimidating look...mebbe cos the military and police
use them a lot.
The guys at Mobil would charge you more than the normal mechs, I suppose,
but should not be more or similar to what LR charges you. I was charged
about RM1K fer the repair/change of ignition module and ignition switch,
the bulk being the parts. It was a rush job (assuming parts gotten from
LRM) but if I had gotten the parts from a dealer, Han Land Shen, my guess
that I could've shaven off about RM300-400.
Alamak, 40K?. Some people have all the luck. Have u noticed the bumpers &
side skirt of Harith's black LSE? That is the brookland type kit. Nice eh?
Cxong, I used to own fer a while an '89 RR diesel with the VM 2.4 td
engine. Wow, macam lori maa. Heard the 300tdi disco diesel clatter and
it's sooo much quieter than the VM. Some japs 4wd diesel are quieter, I
But I guess the comfort of a luxury car (granted it's not a merc or a BM)
with a real 4wd capability makes us forgive some of the LR quirkiness, eh?
Neeway, Landy kakis love their rigs, warts and all....
Posted 19 July 2003 - 01:31 PM
a good buy since it is classified as pickup without any excise duty. I
sold it for Disco is because I need a close "trunk" to store my stuffs
especially when I have 5 passengers with me. I spent a lot of money in
adding accessories like aluminium roller shuttle cover to cover the open
end at the back of my ranger but it is still not as good as the Disco
where I can also have 2 extra passengers sitting at the back (The disco
is a 7-seater.). The previous version of Ranger is leaf-spring so you
won`t enjoy the comfort ride like disco even you spend RM3000+ for a
I think the new Ranger Auto has better suspension for comfort ride plus
ABS and air bags. If I have the extra money and storage space I will buy
the Ranger Auto as my additional car.
Have you tested drive a Harrier? You will love it once you sit inside
even not driving it at all.
Posted 20 July 2003 - 03:34 PM
diesel. The rest i can live with it.
I'm impressed mainly with the low end torque of the diesel and yeah the
highlight of it is the consumption.
The leaf spring shouldnt be a problem. It is just a matter of setting up.
Coz my daily ride is actually a Daihatsu Rocky and it uses leaf springs
too. Infact i find the ride on my Rocky to me more supple and compliant
as compared to my Classic. Using ultimate suspension springs and gabriel
rider absorbers. The reason why i thought of getting the ford ranger is
coz this silly daily car fuel consumption is at its best. 15MPG. Yucks.
300km for 1 full tank of 75 bucks............
Plus doesnt help with the fact i'm still studying and i dont happen to
own a petrol station let alone an oil field.
Harrier? Looks kewl but too expensive. Plus it is more of an urban
warrior than a SUV. Bet u wont see one parking on kerbs let alone
participate in the Rainforest challenge.
I think the perfect diesel engine to dump into the RR Classic would be a
Toyota 1-KZ. I think it is a 3 litre v6 turbo diesel. BUt i wonder if u
can fit in a Landcrusier 6inline 4litre turbo diesle too?
But then again road tax will be a killer.
Posted 20 July 2003 - 05:15 PM
car with comfort ontoad in mind. The earlier model is mostly 2WD.
Since you intend to go off road, Ford Ranger is a good choice plus you can
join the Lanun Darat for offroad trips. You will not regret to know a lot
of friendly members there.
Posted 21 July 2003 - 01:37 AM
Yep, the harrier is nice but as babygod says, it's an urban warrior, to
tackle the city traffic woes such as potholes, minor floodings..etc.
Granted that RR (esp classic) and discos can tackle the jungle as good as
the defender and the series, but normally m'sian owners don't do that.
I did off-road once into one of the farming trails at CH. Boy, I sure
appreciated the comfort. Went in b4 in a series and my butt was sore
soaking up the bumps. I'd go onto a normal off-road trail in my stock
rangie but not the extremes as I hafta get those equipments such as winch,
snorkel and all that jazz first.
In the Land Rover M'sia website, it was mentioned that a rangie 4.6 of a
brit team won the simex rainforest challenge. Was it a MkII or a
Babygod, Rocky is more supple? You gotta be kidding! I had more than once
riding in a rocky and it far from the comfort of the classic. Erm, mebbe
your classic has heavy duty springs and gas shocks?
Ford ranger is a good rig. A quite practical mean of loading in
Posted 21 July 2003 - 09:35 PM
the 4.6 litre v8 into their rigs( Classics or Defender 90). But
personally i feel that it is just not suitable for our conditions. Though
the 4.6 V8 is torquey but the main problem is i wonder how do they make
an EFI and plus it is petrol as water proof as a duck. No matter how much
silicon u apply and whatever u do on the ignition u just cant make it as
water resistant as a diesel which does away with ignition. Plus the fact
that diesel turbos produce much low end torque as compared to a petrol
Why my Daihatsu Rocky rides better than my Classic?
Cause my Daihatsu Rocky is prepared for the harsh extremes of off roading.
Full roll cage, springs, winch, bull bar, shockers, diff lock, body lift,
lights. But dont compare it to the newer gang of off roaders where the
1st thing they ever do is slap on MT117 Silverstones or Simex Centipede
and stickers left, right and centre even though i doubt they are
sponsored at all.
My Classic is okay lah but maybe why it is not as supple as my Rocky is
coz there are fitted front and rear with bloody stiff sway bars and
equiped with DeCarbon shockers and also because i'm too naughty to resist
the temptation to "pek" corner with my Classic hehehe.
Posted 22 July 2003 - 11:23 PM
Babygod, your classic is an ,89 model rite? So I suppose it is fitted
later (not stock) with sway bars, eh? How much would it cost? Not the
heavy duty ones lar....just enuff to reduce the body roll but maintain the
I'm sold to oil type shocks fer two reasons - they're cheap (RM110/= each)
and I wanted the comfort. Okay, the brand might not be the best but it's
the one offered for oil-type.
Okay, how do you guys feel about TT during the w-days? W-ends a bit tight
though we could've more time... and hafta arrange fast cos
Sachino@mitchell the guy I owe roti canai is about to leave fer China (1
year) on Aug 15.
Would the Ampang area appeal to you CXOng?
Posted 22 July 2003 - 11:32 PM