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#1
soulover

Posted 26 October 2004 - 05:17 PM

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Can somebody confirm whether the new Avanza engine is a newly toyota tuned
VVT-i or simply re-badge of DVVT???

I guess we as consumer have the right to know this.

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john

Posted 26 October 2004 - 06:24 PM

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If comparing the specs, VVti seems a few hp higher, probably with different
mapping of the ECU. Should have better response than the Kembara due the
2Wheel drive against Kembara's 4WD

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yeong

Posted 26 October 2004 - 06:33 PM

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Frankly I don't mind if it's DVVT or VVTi. Both also miles ahead than my
Wira's. According to Chips report, the engine is Kembara's based with
different tuning. In fact the Avanza in my opinion is just a bigger Kelisa
with 7 seats and Toyota brand.

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yhyeong

Posted 26 October 2004 - 06:57 PM

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soulover,
the term shud be read this way >>> DVVT = VVT-i
becos the technology is belong to Toyota, Daihatsu/Perodua just use it,
so need to rebrand~

and the ECU does play an important part, a Toyota-tuned engine vs
Daihatsu/Perodua-tuned engine is totally different, somemore one is 2WD
and one 1s 4WD...

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speedzone

Posted 26 October 2004 - 07:08 PM

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VVT-i not d same as DVVT.

One has i n one has D, its different Big Smile

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jhoon

Posted 26 October 2004 - 07:23 PM

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Actually the variable valve technology is not entirely from toyota, in fact
they outsource their variable valve part from other company. If you are
talking about avanza's engine, it is from perodua/daihatsu, toyota's
contribution into this engine is a modified ECU programming parameters.

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mmycvc

Posted 26 October 2004 - 11:45 PM

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another thing aaa...is the Avanza a rear wheel drive MPV? I thought it's
a front wheel drive car but yesterday to make sure I looked under the
carriage and saw the shaft to the rear wheel... when I ask the salesman
he did'nt know ah... anyway I booked oredi just need to know for sure.

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jhoon

Posted 26 October 2004 - 11:52 PM

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This is a direct quote from chips' article:

"The Avanza has rear-wheel drive which, in the view of Chief Engineer
Hosokawa, is more suitable for this type of vehicle and also better for the
conditions in the Asean area. While front-wheel drive has its merits and
comes in very useful when more space in the cabin is needed, the 4070 mm
long Avanza already has enough body length so having RWD is not
disadvantageous. It is better when a full load is carried and provides
better rear-end traction as weight distribution is better."

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Kelateboy

Posted 27 October 2004 - 04:56 PM

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My understanding is that dvvt is not a derivative of vvti, even though
Daihatsu Motor is a 51.4% subsidiary of TMC. A quick check at Daihatsu
Motor webpage reveals that dvvt is defined as "an original Daihatsu
Technology". It means that dvvt was fully developed by Daihatsu.

Bear in mind that TMC only owns 51.4% of Daihatsu Motor. Toyota
technology does not equate to Daihatsu technology.

-KB

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corinthian

Posted 27 October 2004 - 05:00 PM

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Original Poster : Kelateboy
Original Post : My understanding is that dvvt is not a derivative of vvti,
even though
Daihatsu Motor is a 51.4% subsidiary of TMC. A quick check at Daihatsu
Motor webpage reveals that dvvt is defined as "an original Daihatsu
Technology". It means that dvvt was fully developed by Daihatsu.

Bear in mind that TMC only owns 51.4% of Daihatsu Motor. Toyota
technology does not equate to Daihatsu technology.

-KB
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As usual, KB has done his homework. ThumbUp

Cheers.