[aeewantu26]

hi all,

i've been in this forum for a couple of months, no one talk bad bout
perodua, but only our first national car being bashed?

they take things for granted, they roll out inferior cars hopfully that
the buyer never discover, if they discover , then only roll it back to
them. they waste the consumers' time.

i think we should support p2 instead of potong, don't make them so busy(
don't give them orders) so that they have more time to do improvement!

i think the potong people should follow our treads!!


gong xi fa cai!!

[AE101rulez]

So that potong have more time to do improvement???

Pleaselah, potong even if given work or not is equally as lazy as
beforelah.

[JCMF]

Proton don't care about the repairs as they only customers are EON and
Proton Edar.
So this is the real problem. All of our complains is never gets to
Proton...because we do not drive directly to Proton for repair, instead
we drive to EON or Proton Edar and yet these 2 'no hope' service centre
don even know what is 'customer excellence'. Just do their 'no
improvement' daily jobs and receive customers complain. Whether they
feedback to Proton or not I don't know.

last few weeks I bought my car to EON SC for timing belt replacement and
surprise that 1 customer bring his ~10yrs old SAGA for a major service
and repair but is being rejected by the EON due to "too many kereta nak
repair" reason. What a stupid reason they gave!!

and to my surprise that about 80% of the car awaiting repair/service at
the SC are new cars!

So you can see that after sale service for proton cars are very bad,
totally screwed-up!!

My father's Perodua Kancil is about 8yrs already and we still received
mails from Perodua SC to remind us for service and it also specify what
type of service for this round based on last round service!!!

My Iswara is 6yrs and I NEVER receive any mail from EON!!!!!!

This is why we are screwing on potong!!!!!

[flee]

Perodua is a car manufacturer whereas Proton is a political party. And we
all know what politicians do, right?

[dkx]

The main reason Perodua came into existence was address the issue that by
the early 1990s, Proton entry level models were being priced above the
levels of most Malaysian's affordability. So, if Proton had done its job
properly in the first place, there may not be any need to set up Perodua.

Now, the Perodua plant is being used by Toyota to assemble the Avanza & in
the future, would probably include other Toyota models. Isn't that a
testament by Toyota itself that it is confident in the abilities of the
Perodua workforce to turn out quality automobiles?

Last year, at the initial period when the Gen2 was launched, Proton did
announce that Perodua would eventually be its vendor to make & supply the
Campro cylinder heads. Thus, making people wonder why Proton had made so
much publicity about designing & prototyping the Campro themselves but
unable to manufacture the cylinder heads.

Let's see how Perodua's new 1.3 model goes against Proton's TRM (and may
be SRM)........

[nuggyn]

"why no perodua basher ONLY POTONG bashers? "

P2 listens to its customers complains.

P1 doesn't and claim that it's all rubbish.

that's why.

[surfpg]

"why no perodua basher ONLY POTONG bashers? "


Perodua is 51% owned by Daihatsu (which is a subsidiary of TOYOTA); so QC
is of higher grade.


Potong is run by 2 x TMs. QC is of Bolihland standard. Take it or Leave
it attitude.


So that's the main difference.


Perodua Ah Boon I want!!!


TAK NAK to Potong.

[9880]

JCMF,

very few people will buy 2nd proton (if condition or budget allows).
whereas we can see perodua improving, and the demand for town/city car is
increasing because they are practical enough to drive in city; of course
cheaper and not as problematic as Proton.

btw, perodua sent you mails cos there are launching Ah Boon and perhaps
you'll book one; while proton, using their "creative" idea in advertising
with all the "oohs and wahhs" and get an auntie to endorse Gen-2... how
do you think?

Happy CNY and berhati-hati di jalan raya...

[salahuaw]

Don't need to ask why there are no P2 bashers.
Only need to start bashing. Let me start one ...

Perodua only trying to con all of you by showing how fast and trendy their cars are. In fact I feel Perodua cars are really dangerous and to top this off they try to con us by saying their cars are actually safe.

A few weeks back Perodua ran an advertisement trying to project how their cars have safety features.. Find out for yourselves which cars in their lineup have the folowing

1. Back seat safety belts
2. Reverse sensors
3. Driver lockable rear windows

Kelisa is actually a three celinders city car. Over here in Perodua "what do I care land", it is being promoted as a speed demon car, complete with TV adds encouraging potential young customers drive fast. Easily conned consumers does not realised that this 40K cars is just terrbile in every other departments except for go fast after traffic light.

Who is the culprit here?

Don't be fooled!!

[dkx]

I do not totally believe 100% about what is said in adverts by any car
manufacturer, whether it is by Proton, Perodua or even Toyota.
Personally, I do not expect smaller Perodua cars to come out better in an
accident than bigger Proton cars, but just before Proton came into being
in 1985, Malaysian motorists did not pay much attention to small compact
cars which was why the early Proton models was targetted at the 1300cc &
1500cc sectors. But, as I posted earlier in this thread, Proton failed to
keep its entry level car prices down, resulting in the need to set up
Perodua because there was the need to keep entry level national cars
affordable. So, there it is, where in 1994, a new basic 660cc Kancil could
be purchased at about the same price as a new Saga 1.5 in 1985. Given the
fact that rise in new car prices over the years had been quicker than the
rise in an average Malaysian's salary/income, more Malaysian motorists
would be financially forced to buy smaller new Perodua cars. So, is the
average Malaysian motorist to blame if he/she could not afford to buy a
higher priced, bigger & 'safer' Proton?