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#1
yokomo

Posted 14 July 2003 - 01:43 PM

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Hi all the RC owner, may I know that around how much for one set of
second hand Sanwa MX3 and Ko Propo Mars EX1?? Pls advice. I looking for
either one.

yokomo

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abede

Posted 14 July 2003 - 03:08 PM

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2nd hand??? where to get...very hard to get 2nd hand controller maaa...2nd
hand car easy larr to get..any way new is only RM6++ for Mtx3 and RM1+++
for Mars Ex1 , but better buy 3PK

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InitialD

Posted 14 July 2003 - 03:34 PM

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abede, I don't think you mean RM 6xx for brand new MTX-3 right? It should
be RM 6xx for the Sanwa MX3Big Smile

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yokomo

Posted 14 July 2003 - 04:04 PM

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Thanks. So, the Ko Mars R are same price with 3PK?? I think Ko are better
than 3PK bacause I seen a lot of people use KO at my place.

yokomo

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nova

Posted 14 July 2003 - 06:59 PM

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Yokomo,

One very important thing you have to remember, 3PK comes with failsafe
(PCM) but KO didn't, unless your are playing battery car.

#6
abede

Posted 15 July 2003 - 07:55 AM

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heheheBig Smile u r rite mr InitialD..typo error it should be sanwa Mx3...

yokomo, 3pk is the latest technology and it`s come with fail save..for me
KO is out of my choice since their handle are not very ergonomic to
me..now I use M8(good for me) but let say if I just about to start I will
choose 3PK.

#7
yokomo

Posted 15 July 2003 - 09:49 AM

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I looking for better Tx due to my steering can't turn more mean I need
to use big round to turn in a corner. The D/R on my stock Tx already set
to maximun. I think this problem is cause by the Tx and not the servo.
I have offer second hand Tx from some one MX3 RM400 and Ko Mars EX1 RM
550. Is the price worth?? Which one better??
Yesterday very bad day for me, I broken my part which a rod that spin
the wheel and the part that hold the wheel.
May I know that my low speed too lean or too rich when in ideling for
10 second I push to full throttle the engine stall, but when I press break
and in 2 to 3 second I press full throttle it not stall. I manage to tune
the temp less than 120C.

Thanks all the sifu who guard me to gain my RC knowledge.

yokomo

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patricktoh

Posted 15 July 2003 - 10:25 AM

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yokomo,
Your problem:
I looking for better Tx due to my steering can't turn more mean I need
to use big round to turn in a corner.

Solution:
I don't thing TX causes this understeer problem. Have you adjust the
steering EPA or dual/rate. My NTC3 only has about 15 degrees turn at each
end.

- softer front tyres/harder rear tyres .If it is rubber then softer
insert. If it is form then use lower shoe.
- soften front springs/harden rear spings. Normally spring has rating for
e.g 30lbs. Use lower rating.
- increase front toe out. Fornt toe out means \ /. Look at your toes.
- reduce front ride height/increase rear ride height. For a start you may
set front ride height -1mm aganst rear's.

Your question:
May I know that my low speed too lean or too rich when in ideling for
10 second I push to full throttle the engine stall, but when I press break
and in 2 to 3 second I press full throttle it not stall.

My answer:
It looks like your LSN is to rich. Close it by 5 mins incremental until
your car launches without any hesitation. HSN setting should be alright.
What plug # used? Plug #6 should have better idle and launching.

Hope it does helps.Smile

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InitialD

Posted 15 July 2003 - 10:31 AM

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yokomo, it sounds like your LSN is rich. Lean it slightly 1/12 turns at a
time. Do this when the car is already heated up. Your engine should not
stall when you press full throttle after 15 to 20 seconds.

Also, be careful about making your steering throw more than can be done on
your car. You will stress your servos and consume more battery. If you car
needs to use bigger raduis to turn into the corner, your car is
understeering off power. That is due to setup. Not the Tx/Rx or the
servos. People do not change their Tx/Rx because of this. People change to
a better radio because of the features like failsafe, accurate control of
servos and etc that the newer radios can provide.

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yokomo

Posted 15 July 2003 - 01:56 PM

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Thanks, Increase toe out will this cause the tire eat one side Shy? Now I
using Nova#6, but before I use OS#8, which one better?? I hear people
saying Nova more power than OS but someone saying for Malaysia whether use
OS#8Question ?? Now hope sifu can make a answer for me to stick one type of
plug. I running MT12 non turbo with Gammalube 25% fuel. For support OS#8
is easy to buy Big Smile . I try it this weekend for the LSN tuning.