From: farihan@adtecmlk.gov.my
Date: Mon, November 14, 2005 8:33 am
Subject:
Sebelum mengata atau komen, fikir dulu
Assalamualaikum,
Berikut merupakan kisah yg sebenar yg berlaku didalam PROTON. Saya dpt
melalui
kawan saya yg berada di PROTON.Yang ni saya kena jawab la sebab banyak
sangat
misinformation dan cerita yg bukan2. Biasanya information yang berpindah
dari
satu mulut ke satu mulut yang lain akan berubah menjadi sensasi. Itu lah
masyarakat kita. Kita bukan mendapat firsthand info tapi berdasarkan
cerita yang telah ditokok tambah.
Ini dia cerita dari orang dalam yang duduk ditengah tengah R&D PROTON.
............ada kenalan dari kastam boleh confirmkan perkara ni..member
saya kerja kastam kat kelang dan beliau sendiri yang maklumkan yg salah
satu tugas dia adalah buat checking penerimaan barangan proton untuk di
pasangkan di negara ni. Satu kontena enjin je..manakala kontena lain
adalah pintu, body dan sebagainya. sama lah dengan kereta lain juga.
Kalau kita lalu kat kawasan glenmarie tu, akan ternampak lah satu tanda...
Kilang Enjin Proton. Tanda tu tak duduk kat situ untuk suka suka je. Kalau
kita jengok kat dalam.... Boleh nampak besi cair yang dituang kedalam
acuan untuk membuat enjin block. Memang proton ada mengimpot enjin tapi
dari kelas 1.2 dan 2 liter. 1.2l untuk Savvy (enjin Renault) dan 2l untuk
Perdana. Tapi untuk enjin 1.3, 1.5, 1.6 proton buat sendiri. Untuk pintu
pulak... hanya kereta kereta Perdana sahaja yang proton beli pintu dari
Mitsubishi. For your information, Untuk membuat pintu sahaja memerlukan
dekat 20 acuan. Bayangkan lah 4 pintu. Modal itu shaja sudah hampir
RM50juta. So untuk kereta yang volume kecil, kita beli dari luar. Untuk
kereta Isawara, Wira, Waja, Gen2, Savvy...100% body dibuat di Malaysia.
Bayangkan dah 20 tahun menanti kereta Malaysia yang sebenarnya tak keluar-
keluar lagi.Bagi yang berkemampuan sudah tentu tak mahu menggunakan injin
kenderaan berteknologi 70an, 80an dan 90an yang diubahsuai. Sudah tentu
ramai nak teknologi terkini dan sebenarnya milik
kita. Secara umumnya proton masih belum ada enjin sendiri lagi..jadi
adalah sukar hendak dikatakan kalau ianya adalah kereta Malaysia yang
sebenarnya. Pengeluaran kenderaan adalah berdasar injinnya barulah boleh
dikatakan ianya kenderaan negara sebenarnya.
Disini lagi ada misinformation. Memang untuk kereta Perdana kita impot
enjin dari Jepun. Untuk Savvy kita guna kan enjin Renault. Untuk Isawara,
Wira dan Waja kita buat enjin di Malaysia walaupun design original dia
dari Mitsubishi. Tapi enjin Gen-2 adalah enjin terkini yang di reka oleh
jurutera Proton dan dibina di Malaysia. Enjin tersebut menggunakan
teknologi terkini. Jadi kenyataan diatas agak menyesatkan sedikit. Naza,
Perodua.... Masih lagi membawa enjin dari luar. Modal untuk mereka dan
mengeluarkan enjin ni amat besar. Nak dapat return pun bukan
nya sekejap. Tapi demi maruah dan kemajuan, kita korbankan keuntungan
jangka pendek. Selagi kita tidak mengeluarkan enjin sendiri..selagi itu
kita tidak tahu. Sekarang kita telah pun mengeluarkan enjin sendiri...
orang masih tidak percaya. Itu lah masalah orang kita... memandang rendah
kebolehan anak negara sendiri.
Selama ini proton bergantung kepada Mitshubishi sebagai rakan teknikal.
Oleh kerana kontrak selama 20 tahun telah tamat. Maka proton terpaksalah
mencari rakan teknikal yang baru dan bermulalah masalah melanda proton.
Sudah tentu rakan teknikal baru tidak mahu meneruskan
rekaan dan teknologi mitshubishi lagi. So apa kan jadi pada kereta proton
yang ada sekarang ni untuk masa akan datang.
Tidak wujud kontrak 20 tahun dengan Mitsubishi. Mereka adalah rakan
kongsi. Bertahun tahun kita berkerjasama dengan Mitsubishi tetapi teknikal
apa yang mereka turunkan. Kalau kita pernah berkerja dengan orang Jepun
atau Korea, mereka inilah yang paling kemut ilmu. Tapi bab nak korek ilmu
kita, dia orang rajin habis. Jangan terkejut bila saya cakap yang idea
kita p i1.autoe ` ` dS3 s (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES ('778608', '', '47940', 'galaxia', '60.48.191.200','1122894195', '54311', 'For LMST owners', '0', 'galaxia', '6abdb18f97034393caf0c8c530738d62', '177869', 'Thanx so much for the feedbacks guys.\nHotrod.. i\'m not really sure, cuz after i got my car, i let it run almost \ndry first (blinking on one bar). Then when i go Petronas go fill up full, \nit cost me RM64. I assume the rest is about RM6 liddat laa (using RM1.52 \nper liter petrol). Then when empty again, is about 550km. \n\nOh yeah, i use it for town + highway. Maybe i need to recheck the petrol \nonce again. hehehe :)\n\nYeah.. if my LMST speaks for all the rest, i must say it\'s really a good \ncar, but lousily assembled. Now my mileage is around 2500, and i already \nbrought it for service 5 times to fix steering wheel, squeeking, wind \nsound and so many other things :) \n\ns30ckf, the jet stream is RM1900 or what? we\'re all confused here.\n\nI\'m finding pick up getting gradually slower and slower. Do u all feel \nthe same way after some time? \n\n\n\n\n\n','galaxia@1'); ERT I0` pe pe dS3 e, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES ('778601', '', '45773', 'chungyon', '218.208.251.246','1122825576', '54311', 'For LMST owners', '0', 'chungyon', '5622a92a75fc5404899bd61b79a97a80', '177835', 'i pump in rm55 than can only go around 420km,or sometime more.. depend i\ntravel at highway or city more..\n\nthan about the fuel indicator, my one same with you.. lights up sometimes\nwhen there are still 2 bars remaining. i think the fuel indicator will not\nbecome zero bar cause last time when i take the car at showroom than\nsuddenly engine die because no more petrol,but the indicator still remain\n1 bar\n\nsame with u, pick up slow... but my car still got minor problem like during\nengine low rpm than can hear the tappet sound, door visor after fix many\ntime than still drop down..\n\nthan lastly i want to ask, do ur aircond will bring the outside air go\ninside the car? cause inside my car become diesel smell when follow behind\nthe bus.. and approximately how many km the car still can travel if the\nfuel indicator still leave 1 bar??','chungyon@1'); ttachinx[ (j (j dS3 wheel(the \nfurthest from the reservoir) brake nipple. Loosen the nipple one or \ntwice ...ask someone to assist you in pumping the brake pedal while you \nloosen the nipple valve. A good three or four squeeze of the pedal will \nlower the fluid in the reservoir. Top up the reservoir accordingly. Never \nlet the fluid totally empty in the reservoir as this will introduce air \nbubble in your brake system.\n\nProceed to next rear wheels, the front left wheel and front right wheel as \nthe last wheel to bleed!\n\nThat\'s it! You end up with totally new brake fluid in your system!\n\nYou may ask further if my explaination up there not so clear!\n\n','MidNiteOil@1'); y, fh ) l l l the brake fluid themselves. You need
a small size spanner size 6 to 8, to loosen the nipples on each side of
the wheels. And aslo a transparent tube similar to those found in fish
aquarium. And a bottle to collect the flush fluid.
You begin the flush by attaching the tube to the rear left wheel(the
furthest from the reservoir) brake nipple. Loosen the nipple one or
twice ...ask someone to assist you in pumping the brake pedal while you
loosen the nipple valve. A good three or four squeeze of the pedal will
lower the fluid in the reservoir. Top up the reservoir accordingly. Never
let the fluid totally empty in the reservoir as this will introduce air
bubble in your brake system.
Proceed to next rear wheels, the front left wheel and front right wheel as
the last wheel to bleed!
That\'s it! You end up with totally new brake fluid in your system!
You may ask further if my explaination up there not so clear!
hill, Your mechanic just plain lazy, this is becoz he can\'t charge you much \ndoing the brake flush! \n\nAsk him whether flushing the gearbox is good or not???Surely, he will \ndo...as it can be a costly procedure.\n\nAnyway, for those who intend to flush the brake fluid themselves. You need \na small size spanner size 6 to 8, to loosen the nipples on each side of \nthe wheels. And aslo a transparent tube similar to those found in fish \naquarium. And a bottle to collect the flush fluid.\n\nYou begin the flush by attaching the tube to the rear left wheel(the \nfurthest from the reservoir) brake nipple. Loosen the nipple one or \ntwice ...ask someone to assist you in pumping the brake pedal while you \nloosen the nipple valve. A good three or four squeeze of the pedal will \nlower the fluid in the reservoir. Top up the reservoir accordingly. Never \nlet the fluid totally empty in the reservoir as this will introduce air \nbubble in your brake system.\n\nProceed to next rear wheels, the front left wheel and front right wheel as \nthe last wheel to bleed!\n\nThat\'s it! You end up with totally new brake fluid in your system!\n\nYou may ask further if my explaination up there not so clear!\n\n aw_cO v v dS3 end up with totally new brake fluid in your system!
You may ask further if my explaination up there not so clear!
not iN y v v dS3 joy having speakers/tweeters \nfiring next to my ear or having 12-15in speaker boxes filling up the \nentire rear end. Maybe this is OK for young single people but I dont \nthink it will go down well if you have your old parents, wife or kids at \nthe back.\n\nWhat I do like is music with a reasonably clear & good spread of frequency \nat low volume which caters to everyone sitting in the car. Also dont \nexpect too much if youre not intending to chance the head unit as well \ncause the sound quality is limited. \n\nAs for the speakers, again personal choice..lah since it always boils down \nto budget vs type of sound you like. \n\nOne word of advice, you won\'t be able to get solid thumping bass from 6.5\" \nspeakers (irrespective of brand) even with AMP & new head unit installed. \n\nYou may get some if you willing to cut holes at the back board to install \n3-way 6x9\" spks or install subwoofer boxes. \n\nThe choice is entirely yours....','Tobyboy@1'); fter aJ a z z dS3 ill always be the \nfast and strong one but after a while when times comes, will decide to go \nto the relaxing and family car type(MPV).\n\nSo in other words, cannot compare Myvi with Savvy cause Myvi is for \nfamily confort drive (MPV class) and savvy is use for Fun drive (Raccy \nhatchback)\n\nHope the above info will guide anyone to select the best car for their \nneeds and within their budget range, also will not bash on others by \nthinking they make a stupid decision.\n\nP.S: Stupid decision is when someone regret of selecting a wrong type of \ncar. One of my friend go and buy a Toyota Ipsum (MPV) and end up regret \ndue to did not suit his daily needs of offroad work place.','darkwizard@1'); kily fo H ) } } dS3 everything. A check
with the tester and found all parameters are not optimum parameters. So
there goes the service. Free? Might as well give them back... free service
means cincai service. Same goes for perodua. Told them to take a hike
after i was not allowed at the work area. Found out the filled in too much
of radiator water... nearly to the brim of the tank.
So to those who drive a proton, they know when the problems will come...
my dashboard of my 5 year old wira is making noise going into the 3rd
year. So i just pump up the volume and forget about it. Issit a nice car?
Well for the amount of money paid... no. I\'ve been had. Buying car in
malaysia is an expensive affair with the increase in fuel prices. Having
the cheek to tell us we are the cheapest in terms of oil price is a joke
when we are actually taxed three times. The reason of the bashing is when
u complain it feel on deaf ears. Mahaleel thought he was doing great by
making money when the other corporation failed... yeah rite. If u are
monopolising and u cant win then u might as well pack off and go home.
My point is... bashing is a sign of frustration... u complain to no avail
and politicians or some corporate figures can make use of the newspapers
to manipulate the truth. That\'s what we can be sad about. However, when
recognition is due... we should give it.
Opps... Toby..sori... hijacked the thread.
]W ah gg...
of course ler most are satisfied. The majority of car drivers are...car
drivers. They just start the car n drive till the car gone bonkers. Then
they say the car is lousy cause cannot take the bashing.
When I first took my wira, i immediately realised the car was very
sluggish and the tyres looked like not pumped up. Sent the car for
servicing at the service centre and the ah pek tells me tuning will cost
you so much next time... blah blah blah. After servicing... feels like not
serviced at all. Luckily found a good mec that handles everything. A check
with the tester and found all parameters are not optimum parameters. So
there goes the service. Free? Might as well give them back... free service
means cincai service. Same goes for perodua. Told them to take a hike
after i was not allowed at the work area. Found out the filled in too much
of radiator water... nearly to the brim of the tank.
So to those who drive a proton, they know when the problems will come...
my dashboard of my 5 year old wira is making noise going into the 3rd
year. So i just pump up the volume and forget about it. Issit a nice car?
Well for the amount of money paid... no. I\'ve been had. Buying car in
malaysia is an expensive affair with the increase in fuel prices. Having
the cheek to tell us we are the cheapest in terms of oil price is a joke
when we are actually taxed three times. The reason of the bashing is when
u complain it feel on deaf ears. Mahaleel thought he was doing great by
making money when the other corporation failed... yeah rite. If u are
monopolising and u cant win then u might as well pack off and go home.
My point is... bashing is a sign of frustration... u complain to no avail
and politicians or some corporate figures can make use of the newspapers
to manipulate the truth. That\'s what we can be sad about. However, when
recognition is due... we should give it.
Opps... Toby..sori... hijacked the thread.
]W @# ah gg...\nof course ler most are satisfied. The majority of car drivers are...car \ndrivers. They just start the car n drive till the car gone bonkers. Then \nthey say the car is lousy cause cannot take the bashing. \n\nWhen I first took my wira, i immediately realised the car was very \nsluggish and the tyres looked like not pumped up. Sent the car for \nservicing at the service centre and the ah pek tells me tuning will cost \nyou so much next time... blah blah blah. After servicing... feels like not \nserviced at all. Luckily found a good mec that handles everything. A check \nwith the tester and found all parameters are not optimum parameters. So \nthere goes the service. Free? Might as well give them back... free service \nmeans cincai service. Same goes for perodua. Told them to take a hike \nafter i was not allowed at the work area. Found out the filled in too much \nof radiator water... nearly to the brim of the tank.\n\nSo to those who drive a proton, they know when the problems will come... \nmy dashboard of my 5 year old wira is making noise going into the 3rd \nyear. So i just pump up the volume and forget about it. Issit a nice car? \nWell for the amount of money paid... no. I\'ve been had. Buying car in \nmalaysia is an expensive affair with the increase in fuel prices. Having \nthe cheek to tell us we are the cheapest in terms of oil price is a joke \nwhen we are actually taxed three times. The reason of the bashing is when \nu complain it feel on deaf ears. Mahaleel thought he was doing great by \nmaking money when the other corporation failed... yeah rite. If u are \nmonopolising and u cant win then u might as well pack off and go home.\n\nMy point is... bashing is a sign of frustration... u complain to no avail \nand politicians or some corporate figures can make use of the newspapers \nto manipulate the truth. That\'s what we can be sad about. However, when \nrecognition is due... we should give it. \n\nOpps... Toby..sori... hijacked the thread. \n\n\n\n\n\n ] to0 `S3 course ler most are satisfied. The majority of car drivers are...car
drivers. They just start the car n drive till the car gone bonkers. Then
they say the car is lousy cause cannot take the bashing.
W/ `S3 immediately realised the car was very
sluggish and the tyres looked like not pumped up. Sent the car for
servicing at the service centre and the ah pek tells me tuning will cost
you so much next time... blah blah blah. After servicing... feels like not
serviced at all. Luckily found a good mec that handles everything. A check
with the tester and found all parameters are not optimum parameters. So
there goes the service. Free? Might as well give them back... free service
means cincai service. Same goes for perodua. Told them to take a hike
after i was not allowed at the work area. Found out the filled in too much
of radiator water... nearly to the brim of the tank.
So to those who drive a proton, they know when the problems will come...
my dashboard of my 5 year old wira is making noise going into the 3rd
year. So i just pump up the volume and forget about it. Issit a nice car?
Well for the amount of money paid... no. I\'ve been had. Buying car in
malaysia is an expensive affair with the increase in fuel prices. Having
the cheek to tell us we are the cheapest in terms of oil price is a joke
when we are actually taxed three times. The reason of the bashing is when
u complain it feel on deaf ears. Mahaleel thought he was doing great by
making money when the other corporation failed... yeah rite. If u are
monopolising and u cant win then u might as well pack off and go home.
My point is... bashing is a sign of frustration... u complain to no avail
and politicians or some corporate figures can make use of the newspapers
to manipulate the truth. That\'s what we can be sad about. However, when
recognition is due... we should give it.
Opps... Toby..sori... hijacked the thread.
in' `S3 it \nfor a minute. If there`s any liquid coming out of the air chamber, the \ndiaphragm is cracked or leaking. Get a new one. IF it`s good at this \nstage, do the pressure test on the inlet port. \n\nSimilarly, using the same 60-cc shringe, connected to the inlet port with \na proper fitting, pump the piston down. A 60-cc shringe when fully pump \ndown, should generate about 40-50 psi of pressure. That`s about the WOT \nfuel pressure of many models. You may want to calibrate the shringe using \na pressure gauge before this. Just connect the pressure gauge to the \nshringe and mark the shringe with the corresponding pressure for each 5cc \ncompression. During the test, slowly pump it down and record the pressure \nrequired to open the valve. The compressed air will be vented out from \nthe return port when the valve is opened. As a point of reference, WOT \nfuel pressure for Wira 1.5 EFi is about 42psi. If it requires > or < 5psi \n(considering the error in the pressure reading) to open the valve, it`s \nout. Get a new one.\n\n\n2] Cleaning and Testing the Fuel Injectors\n------------------------------------------\n\nThe above-mentioned debris will get into the injectors and accumulate in \nthe valve too. You will either get (1 or more of) them stuck-open of \nstuck-close. This doesn`t mean that a stuck injector will not function, \nbut, a stuck-open injector will result in rich burning, and vise versa \nfor a stuck-close one. Sent the injectors for cleaning and testing. You \ncan`t afford to have the instrument to do it, unlike those used in \ncleaning and testing the FPR. \n\nI have personally done the FPR cleaning and testing. But I need to send \nmy car for injectors cleaning in Autochild.\n\n\n3] O2 Sensor\n----\0i1.autoq\0\0\0\0If your less than 2 year-old EFi is showing worsen FC, try do these in \nsequance:','drexchan@1'); ing 8 h h ` have personally done the FPR cleaning and testing. But I need to send
my car for injectors cleaning in Autochild.
3] O2 Sensor
----\0i1.autoq\0\0\0\0If your less than 2 year-old EFi is showing worsen FC, try do these in
sequance: R. IF q @ If your less than 2 year-old EFi is showing worsen FC, try do these in \nsequance:\n\n1. Check your FPR.\n2. Check your fuel injectors.\n3. Check your O2 sensor.\n\n1] Cleaning and Testing the Fuel Pressure Regulator\n---------------------------------------------------\n\nThe FPR is located at the end of the fuel rail in an EFi engine. Some EFi \ncars don`t have a FPR. The FPR reads the manifold pressure to regulate \nthe opening of a valve in the FPR. IF the vacuum is high (such as idling, \nengine braking), the valve opens more and more fuel is returned to the \ntank, thus lower fuel pressure. If the vacuum is low (such as WOT or \nunderload), the FPR opens less, thus less fuel is returned to the tank, \nand higher fuel pressure. This mechanism is not controlled by the ECU. \nHowever, if O2 sensors feedback shows rich burning at close-loop \noperation at any fuel pressure, the ECU will increase the pulse width of \nthe injectors, thus injecting less fuel, at the same given pressure if \nrich burning is not present.\n\nTo clean and test the FPR. Take it out, fill it with petrol from the \ninlet port. Shake it hard, pour it out. You will be surprised to see \nthoudsands of tiny black particles of different sizes. Those are neoprene \ndebris from the disintergrating fuel hose (the portion from the charcoal \ncanister to the fuel rail). These debris, accumulating in the FPR valve, \nblocking the return path, making your car running on extra high fuel \npressure and burning rich at open-loop operation. Producing eccessive \nunburnt HC in the exhaust stream, fouling the O2 sensor, reducing it \nsensitivity... and you know what happen next -- worsen FC and lost of \ndrivability!\n\nClean it several times until you can`t observe any debris from the pour-\nout. Use a white tissue paper so that you can see the tiny particles \nclearer. I bet you need to do it at leas 10 times. It`s better if you \nhave an ultrasonic bath, just give the FPR a bath for 20 minutes with the \ninlet port facing bottom, in petrol or ethanol, NOT WATER!. \n\nAfter cleaning and completely drying the FPR (I use an electrical oven at \n50 deg C, you may try a hair dryer), run a vacuum test on the air \nchamber. Connect a 60-cc shringe to the vacuum port. Fill the fuel \nchamber with some petrol. Pull the shringe all the way back and hold it \nfor a minute. If there`s any liquid coming out of the air chamber, the \ndiaphragm is cracked or leaking. Get a new one. IF it`s good at this \nstage, do the pressure test on the inlet port. \n\nSimilarly, using the same 60-cc shringe, connected to the inlet port with \na proper fitting, pump the piston down. A 60-cc shringe when fully pump \ndown, should generate about 40-50 psi of pressure. That`s about the WOT \nfuel pressure of many models. You may want to calibrate the shringe using \na pressure gauge before this. Just connect the pressure gauge to the \nshringe and mark the shringe with the corresponding pressure for each 5cc \ncompression. During the test, slowly pump it down and record the pressure \nrequired to open the valve. The compressed air will be vented out from \nthe return port when the valve is opened. As a point of reference, WOT \nfuel pressure for Wira 1.5 EFi is about 42psi. If it requires > or < 5psi \n(considering the error in the pressure reading) to open the valve, it`s \nout. Get a new one.\n\n\n2] Cleaning and Testing the Fuel Injectors\n------------------------------------------\n\nThe above-mentioned debris will get into the injectors and accumulate in \nthe valve too. You will either get (1 or more of) them stuck-open of \nstuck-close. This doesn`t mean that a stuck injector will not function, \nbut, a stuck-open injector will result in rich burning, and vise versa \nfor a stuck-close one. Sent the injectors for cleaning and testing. You \ncan`t afford to have the instrument to do it, unlike those used in \ncleaning and testing the FPR. \n\nI have personally done the FPR cleaning and testing. But I need to send \nmy car for injectors cleaning in Autochild.\n\n\n3] O2 Sensor\n----\0i1.autoq\0\0\0\0If your less than 2 year-old EFi is showing worsen FC, try do these in \nsequance: q XS3 - BBC Top
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25) wantoya (tentative oso kot...)
26) mattbok (collecting my superlon only )
27) MeiQ - Old Klang Road/Sri Petaling
28) waikhei - SS4, PJ
29) Emanage - Gen 2 club
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Alternative waiting point
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1) Wangsa maju/Setapak, refer g88/blackg007
2) Kepong, refer ahboy,nchun or nyapheng(0122006195)(coz ahboy tantative)
3) 1U/BU/Damansara, refer seanlee,zendend
4) Klang/ cyberjaya , refer jeremy
5) Serdang area (drexchan: 7:30am Esso station near South City Plaza, PM
me if you want me to wait there)
6) Ampang/Pandan Area, refer sakuragi
7) Klang/Subang, CALTEX STATION OPPOSITE SUNWAY PYRAMID
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ALL AREA will start to move at 7.30 am morning...
Whoever from this nearby area and doesn\'t know how to go B.Jalil or the
FINAL waiting venue pls click on the above mentioned person nick, you
shall be contacted then. Remember to provide your name as well your
contact number.
Thank you.
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