[blu]

atosmania, what is the difference between Bardhal engine treatment and oil
supplement?

[Esky]

Do you guys mean:

Bardahl engine treatment = Bardahl-1
Bardahl oil treatment = Bardahl-2

when you're talking about the Bardahl engine and oil treatments?

Bardahl-1 is for engines in good condition (not consuming oil) and Bardahl-
2 is very thick/viscous and works like those Stop-Oil! kinda viscosity
thickener to reduce oil-burning in worn-out engines.

[Ivan Khong]

xantiaBFY,

Yes. The additives will work on a turbo engine. I have seen Scooby owners
use them.

-Ivan

[mroctopus]

I'm not against any oil additives... just wondering if anyone run the
similar testing method without Bardahl, and see if the result is the
same. Is it due to Bardahl oil additives? Is it due to the effectiveness
of engine oil used in the engine that drained it out? Without comparison,
it's really hard to judge. With the cost of Bardahl, that consider
extremely cheap in overseas such as European countries, Japan or U.State,
why any major car manufacturers didn't recommend using it since it
someone believe it works out so well as stated? I believe there is no
answer given, with so many threads in autoworld today mentioning oil
additives ...etc.

At least someone out there who did a more "scientific experiment" which
mentioned in the following report. It may or may not related to Bardahl
but it is good info to share about.

The Infamous "No Oil" Demo

At at least three major motorcycle rallies this past year, we have
witnessed live demonstrations put on to demonstrate the effectiveness of
certain oil additives. The demonstrators would have a bench- mounted
engine which they would fill with oil and a prescribed dose of
their "miracle additive." After running the engine for a while they would
stop it, drain out the oil and start it up again. Instant magic! The
engine would run perfectly well for hours on end, seemingly proving the
effectiveness of the additive which had supposedly "coated" the inside of
the engine so well it didn't even need the oil to run. In one case, we
saw this done with an actual motorcycle, which would be rid den around
the parking lot after having its oil drained. A pretty convincing
demonstration - until you know the facts.

Since some of these demonstrations were conducted using Briggs and
Stratton engines, the Briggs and Stratton Company itself decided to run a
similar, but somewhat more scientific, experiment. Taking two brand-new,
identical engines straight off their assembly line, they set them up for
bench-testing. The only difference was that one had the special additive
included with its oil and the other did not. Both were operated for 20
hours before being shut down and having the oil drained from them. Then
both were started up again and allowed to run for another 20 straight
hours. Neither engine seemed to have any problem performing this "minor
miracle."

After the second 20-hour run, both engines were completely torn down and
inspected by the company's engineers. What they found was that both
engines suffered from scored crankpin bearings, but the engine treated
with the additive also suffered from heavy cylinder bore damage that was
not evident on the untreated engine.

This points out once again the inherent problem with particulate oil
additives: They can cause oil starvation. This is particularly true in
the area of piston rings, where there is a critical need for adequate oil
flow. In practically all of the reports and studies on oil additives, and
particularly those involving suspended solids like PTFE, this has been
reported as a major area of engine damage.

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Just a report anyway, believe it or not, it's up to ourself. Just like
someone tell me he believe there's ghost, but i will never believe it
until i see them myself

[Kelateboy]

mroctupus,

I had seen that report, somewhere, sometime ago. At the end of it,maybe
it is better to only use Mobil One.

-KB

[xantiaBFY]

check out this site..



http://www.bobistheo...lucas/lucas.htm


xantiaBFY

[GoOsE]

and also can check this site...

http://triumph.cs.ut.../oil.treatments

[tonto]

Interesting..........why mobil one?? why not shell ultra,Motul, Castrol
SLX or Chemlube? Any particular specs or info we missed somewhere???

[A4dave]

I am not sure whether this topic had been covered before, but I read a
very interesting article about this oil treatment. Some time ago,
somebody drove his car from Johor Bahru to Bukit Kayu Hitam covering
848km without any engine oil, but after "treating" his car to Bardahl.
They put the oil in the engine compartment and drained it later. The car
was driven literally without engine oil, or so they said.

Is this yet another case of a snake oil?

-KB

Adoi, what happened to all the threads? Is the articla about Bardahl still around in the archives?

[cheongss]

Adoi, what happened to all the threads? Is the articla about Bardahl still around in the archives?

Did not know there was a thread on Bardahl. Yes, done an extensive research. In fact, found out that Bardahl has been very effective for my car. Ran through the thread earlier, they did a no oil run. Surprise because they cover 1300km after draining out the engine oil that was laced with Bardahl. This even was even noted and certified by AAM and Guiness Book of Malaysia. Walau....i dunno why they are not promoting in this. Over the years, it has been X1R, Tufoil, Liqui Moly...etc etc etc...but surprised me that a can of Bardahl, costing much lesser than them, but proven to be more effective than i ever thought.

The idea of the no oil run was basically to demo how effective the clinging properties in the additive. Not really ask people to pour Bardahl and drain it out and jalan.....but since I have an old car, which is sipping oil, it makes sense to me to use it as it may not cure oil burn issue, but it at least helps preventing major damage when the oil is minimum....

Thanks for sharing