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XANTIA 1.9TD MYSTERY - well sort of


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#21
adibonsu

Posted 05 December 2005 - 05:25 PM

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i tried to call RobertNg but can't get through. maybe he changed his tel
number. anyone knows? how about ppooven? anyone knows how i can contact
him?

BTW, the price for the '99 is RM28k. is that good or no good?

#22
xantia2899

Posted 05 December 2005 - 05:33 PM

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I bought mine @ RM25,000 3 months ago. Year 1995 reg. 1996. So I think ur
price kira oklah. But I bought direct from owner. He changed new tyres (4
units), radiator flush, new battery, lubricant changed, even pay for my
Puspakom check & transfer ownership fees (around RM600).

But one thing, TEST DRIVE the car before you agree to buy. Check with
competent Citroen mechanics. :) My dua sen



#23
muffdiver

Posted 05 December 2005 - 06:23 PM

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Wouldn't be a safe idea to purchase a second hand car without a test drive
at least. Buying without a test drive is a like leap in the dark. If the
car's condition meets your standard, insist on a test drive.

Its a Xantia therefore its a buyer's market. These cars are not easy to
sell off from the lot. Be sure you get the car at your price. Don't visit
too often, dealer would realize you like the car very much (maybe desperate
for it) and would resist your bargaining. After the test drive and if you
like the car, make a low offer. He would refuse at first but eventually
meet somewhere in the middle.

Yes, all Xantia with or without Hydractive works that way. Self-leveling
suspension. Of course Hydractive a cool feature to have, but if you want a
late year model (99 onwards etc) you don't have a choice. They're all non-
Hydractive.

#24
adibonsu

Posted 05 December 2005 - 08:32 PM

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i managed to call RobertNg, and i was 2 weeks to late. he sold his '97
xantia for 19K!! he's a nice guy. he advised me that hydractive is much
better in a sense that when driving fast, the suspension will auto adjust
to SPORT to give firm ride. and this does not happen with hydropneumatic
where the suspension is always NORMAL.

i think i'm taking the advise to "jual mahal" a bit so that i don't look
like desperate. some good car (with hydractive 2...heheh)is out there
somewhere, i'm sure.

#25
ket

Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:36 PM

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No doubt hydractive ii is a more advanced suspension, but it is also more
complicated. There numerous electronic sensors that governs the behavior
of the suspension, even doors opening sensor. The down side is, as the car
age the odds of oneo these sensors develope electrical problem is higher
and it takes a very expereince technician to diagnose it properly. The
youngest hydractive xantia is at least 7 years old. A time when the
electric wires and connector start to get loose and develope bad contact,
you will have lots of fun to trace them, however if you like the
challenge, it can be a very rewarding car ownership experience.

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johnckl

Posted 05 December 2005 - 09:59 PM

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Ket is right. If you have the patience and time, go for HA2, if not, then
stick to simpler hydropneumatic. So many sensors affect HA2, door sensor,
steering sensor, accelerator sensor, electrovalves, etc. Unfortunately,
HA2 will not auto adjust the height when speeding or slowing, only when
cornering, it will adjust to compensate for body roll. If your HA2 is tip
top, meaning all 8 spheres are re-gassed optimally, then you can actually
feel it a while after you pressed the button. If not tip-top, you won`t
feel the effect. XTD used to be 7sen/km, now about 10sen/km, anywhere
from 12-16km/lt depending on whether short or long distance. Once I
overhaul my XTD and fit in the oil cooler, I will tweak my 92hp to 115hp
to see the effect. If still economical, can tahan, if not, then revert
back to 92hp. So if you see a silver XTD smoking on the highway months
later, it could be me chasing our petrol bros. horhorhor!

#27
DarthDude

Posted 05 December 2005 - 10:24 PM

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Wow......

A lot of activity in this thread.......

Now guys.... sorry if I caused any offence with the "monkey" variant comment...... it's a term used
in the defence industry when advanced nations (like the US) sell inferior versions of weapons
systems to third world countries (like us). This is why our F18s will always get their arses kicked
by USN F18s and so on......

adibonsu dude...... I'd recommend the "monkey" variant for you for exactly the reasons stated by
the other dudes here- it IS more reliable and it IS simpler and cheaper to maintain and it IS the
ideal starter LHM ride. I have Hydractive on the Enterprise and have only had occassion to try it
once in all the time I've been driving it (6 months now) and even then it was to keep up with
swoon's Satria GTi on Jln Bukit Gambir in Penang (he was doing about 200km/h).

You'll simply not need Hydractive unless you're going to go crazy on the road and even if you
tried the Xantias we get here are all the wrong model to go crazy in anyway so it's alll pointless
and merely adds another complexity to the car. ABS is of course a great thing to have but heck...
really... how often had you had to rely on it?

Just be responsible and enjoy the ride man... yo don't need Hydractive or ABS for that.

Cheers

Darth

#28
adibonsu

Posted 06 December 2005 - 01:28 AM

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waahhh...this is as hot an issue as AP and Ayah Pin...

really, honestly, i'm extremely glad with all the feedback. more than i'd
expected. thank you is just not enough...

now my feet is down on planet reality (before, i was really on planet
fantasy and wanting all the best from a car which is not without its
downside), thanks to darthdude, i come to realize what i really need (and
what i don't).

to all forum members/citroen fans, thanks again. you have been very out-of-
this-world helpful.

#29
holfiman

Posted 06 December 2005 - 02:41 AM

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I have Hydractive on the Enterprise and have only had occassion to try
it
once in all the time I've been driving it (6 months now) and even then it
was to keep up with
swoon's Satria GTi on Jln Bukit Gambir in Penang (he was doing about
200km/h).
Darthdude are you sure he is doing 200km/h?i am staying in PG and i know
that is impossible !!!!

#30
xantiaBFY

Posted 06 December 2005 - 08:42 AM

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adibonsu,

go through this site and whatever you do TEST DRIVE that car or why not
take an experienced mechanic with you to check out
that "monkey".....impersonating John..horhorhor...Cool