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#11
azxel

Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:12 PM

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hey Sub.. thanks man.
Still looking around. Still undecided. Sorry man...

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Posted 07 December 2006 - 08:14 PM

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none taken powerhaus. Yea, I know that. I was just pushing my luck.

I have some cash in hand, enough to pay downpayment but I guess I'm just a
bit fickle minded at the moment. >_< I just wanted to get a basic 1.6 146.
Tried out a 2.0 146 and I loved it... but just had some concerns about
roadtax, insurance and Fuel consumption. Then again, those things aren't
really a big issue... *sigh*

Gah... more comments would be appreciate to help me make up my mind. hehe

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powerhaus

Posted 08 December 2006 - 08:54 AM

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mate, save more and go for the 2 litre. yes, road tax,insurance,FC is not
an issue. only need to worry about roadta when it exceeds 2.5 litre.

if u really need the 100% loan, keep 5-8K for wear & tear.

good luck mate.

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Posted 08 December 2006 - 10:45 AM

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thanks for the advice powerhaus. guess I really should reconsider.
will do more math and try to convince the Queen. =)

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kenlairk

Posted 14 December 2006 - 02:49 AM

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hi Azxel,

Powerhaus is right! You must have cash in hand if u plan to buy a used
Alfa..the car is cheap but the maintainance cost u bomb..As mentioned in
my earlier posting, I have spent more than 10K (5 years back) but still
couldn't keep my 146 running well and end up sold as scrap as I didn;t
have extra money to keep up the following repair..I think it is very
superb difficult to find a good condition 146..believe me..unless there is
member who want to sell it..but no 100% confirmed ya..

anyway, it is fun to drive but very costy to maintain..

good luck!

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azxel

Posted 14 December 2006 - 10:13 AM

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thanks kenlairk,
again.. sorry to hear about your Alfa.
mind me asking, did you spend 10K fixing up your Alfa at Alfa specialist?
They couldn't fix it as well?

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kenlairk

Posted 14 December 2006 - 10:47 AM

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hi Azxel,

ya, i sent my previous Alfa to the specialist at Kuchai Lama (with big
Selenia advertisement)..they were quite OK..the only thing was, after I
fix the piston ring, then the lower arm problem, after lower arm then
aircon problem, after air con then timing belt problem, after timing belt
then hv to go for overhauled as Valve burn, afterthat fuel pump
problem..all those were fix but expected more to come until I burned all
my cash & credit cards..thus, decided to stop all the hazards and sold it
before burning more & more $$$..so you must have enuf cash to spare for
and used Alfa..I even had badtime with my wife (last time girlfriend)
after having the car and until now she doesn't really allow me to touch
the used Conti car..so better think twice oh..

my aim is to own a brand new Alfa in future as I believe with the new
Alfa you save all the money for repairing for at least first 3-5 years
with the pleasure of driving Alfa!! Though you will lose the
depreciation..but end of the day still the same if you get an used one..

as mentioned by the Sifus here..driving Alfa or I would say conti
cars..you must pay for the preventive maintainance before you come to
repair..keep this in mind mate!

anyway, good luck!!



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banshee

Posted 14 December 2006 - 10:29 PM

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I dont drive alfa but Audi. I agree on the conti car preventive
maintenance costs. I got an yr 2000 Audi (well maintained with full
service records) from a good friend early this year and for the last
9 months, I`ve changed so many things which totals up to RM 11k. Things
keep failing 1 after another. Even got the car in the workshop for 2
months. My friend also feel sorry to sell me such car. Somehow, new car
is still the safest.
I still think we should not say that conti car is like that. everyone
wanna have a nice car to drive yet doesn`t costs a bomb to maintain. For
my friends, I`ll admit that Audi is a nice car to drive but may not be a
nice car to own. Money is an issue but without a car or always spend time
in workshop is another issue. unless you`re filthy rich, have a driver or
second car, then it should be no issue to you at all. however, not all
conti are like that. I`ve seen reliable conti car before. therefore, for
those buying conti, good luck.
If you are comparing japanese car with conti, i dare to say that I`ve
owned yr 1992 civic, Toyota corona yr 1990 and also Altis yr 2001. For
the old Civic and Corona, they do give a fair share of problems to me but
very much cheaper to maintain and the problems are easier to solve. For
the Altis, no problem at all for the last 5 years. Extremely reliable.
But the ride quality is way below conti standard. So the question here
is, did I regret to buy conti? For the ride, NO but for the trouble, I
would rather have the new Camry. If I keep going to the workshop, I`ll
lose my job very soon for always being late.

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Posted 14 December 2006 - 11:44 PM

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i beg to differ a little here. i feel that all cars are just as reliable.
it is the owner's approach to the particular car.

ken, sorry to hear about your misfortune on your Alfa.

One must understand that the most important thing when you buy a used car
is a solid chasis, accident free and in modern EFI cars, 'untampered'
wiring. once you get an example without these probs, any car can be done
up or maintained properly.

Ken, for your used car, as i had mentioned, maybe you did not budget
properly. for the Alfa, you must be willing to replace parts on the dot.
that is the most important thing. probs wont crop up like that.

Azxel, when you do get your ride say 146 Ti, send the bloody thing to the
workshop, replace 'everything' especially the wear and tear as
recommended by the mechanic. i mean everything for example like the lower
arms, variators, pads, discs, timing belts, water pump, consumables - do
not try to save anything. you cannot replace 1 part and expect the rest
to be good.

when you fix it like that, i dont see how the car can breakdown, apart
from unforseen circumstances.

to me, i have yet to see an unreliable car.

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kenlairk

Posted 15 December 2006 - 01:16 AM

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ya agree with u powerhaus..I admit that myself did a very wrong decision
when I bought the Alfa as I didn't do the right budget...

for your information, the timing belt broken was not because of the life
span worn but was the mistake done by the used car as they sent the car to
an Alfa Idiot workshop..the stupid mechanic had wrongly fix the
bearing..also all the indication lighting wiring were tampered or broken
by the used car dealer until you won't notice the airbag was not
functioning, the car is on heat and bla bla bla..anyway..it was history
already..sorry to be long winded here as I really feel fructrated when
recalled my experience with my first Alfa..I paid to much for the lesson..

anyway, again, I love Alfa..if I got the money..I will get the GT brand
new..drove in Paris, my colleague's one..damn responsive when speeding on
the country road..

Cheers