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is Accord SM4/ CB4 '91-'93 a good buy car?
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fir2
, Apr 24 2006 04:56 PM, 684 replies to this topic
#11
Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:16 PM
but mach....i think very difficult to find those jdms...most owners are
happy driving it although it's aging...with all those
TCS,ABS,sunroof,4WS,etc....what can a "new" local model offer u? owning a
Si defenitely will make one stand out of the croud...happy hunting...
fir2..which part of JB? anyway im from jb too..
happy driving it although it's aging...with all those
TCS,ABS,sunroof,4WS,etc....what can a "new" local model offer u? owning a
Si defenitely will make one stand out of the croud...happy hunting...
fir2..which part of JB? anyway im from jb too..
#12
Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:25 PM
vhchiew....got mine and have been driving it a few days....can't resist
to floor the accel until the vtec kicks in....now i know what were u and
mach telling about the power of a dohc...heh...suprisingly the fuel
consp...is much better than my 2.0(m) before.....
to floor the accel until the vtec kicks in....now i know what were u and
mach telling about the power of a dohc...heh...suprisingly the fuel
consp...is much better than my 2.0(m) before.....
#13
Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:28 PM
best because always few thousand to spend on parts and higher interest
rate
rate
#14
Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:17 PM
well, that was certainly constructive and well thought out...
anyways,
accord22, yeah... I think most owners of CB3/4s will not let go their cars.
They can't get much for it, and it's still "a lot of car" for that kind of
money... and from personal experience, parts on honduhs from that era only
experience normal wear and tear and even so, they last quite long.
Not selling my Si either. Get $18k for it, and buy a much more inferior car
for $70-100k more? I still like the fact that my coin box has an individual
light! And the door key holes light up at night when you pull the handle.
Also, I found a little sensor in the trunk. It senses atmospheric pressure
and sends feedback to the ECU to correct the fuel mix based on your
environment. However, not sure if it's working or not... hehehe
but that relates to your comment why your old 2.0 is thirstier (other than
the fact of car weight). There's something like 5-8 sensors scattered
around the engine and car. All of them feedback to the engine. Any of them
failing will affect power and fuel consumption. Sensors for cold starting,
AC, throttle body airspeed, 02 sensors, even coolant temperature (mine runs
engine coolant through the throttle body in case of winter).
anyways,
accord22, yeah... I think most owners of CB3/4s will not let go their cars.
They can't get much for it, and it's still "a lot of car" for that kind of
money... and from personal experience, parts on honduhs from that era only
experience normal wear and tear and even so, they last quite long.
Not selling my Si either. Get $18k for it, and buy a much more inferior car
for $70-100k more? I still like the fact that my coin box has an individual
light! And the door key holes light up at night when you pull the handle.
Also, I found a little sensor in the trunk. It senses atmospheric pressure
and sends feedback to the ECU to correct the fuel mix based on your
environment. However, not sure if it's working or not... hehehe
but that relates to your comment why your old 2.0 is thirstier (other than
the fact of car weight). There's something like 5-8 sensors scattered
around the engine and car. All of them feedback to the engine. Any of them
failing will affect power and fuel consumption. Sensors for cold starting,
AC, throttle body airspeed, 02 sensors, even coolant temperature (mine runs
engine coolant through the throttle body in case of winter).
#15
Posted 25 April 2006 - 03:32 PM
I have a local Accord SM4 93/93 originally 2.0(M) but recently
transplanted 2.2(A). The engine is new and taken from SV4 Yr 2000 come
complete with JPJ & Puspakom Approval. The car belongs to my father in
law and doing him a favor in selling the car. Car is well maintained with
minor scratches at the front bumper. Absolutely accident free. Price RM
2x,xxx.
Any takers?
Cheers.
transplanted 2.2(A). The engine is new and taken from SV4 Yr 2000 come
complete with JPJ & Puspakom Approval. The car belongs to my father in
law and doing him a favor in selling the car. Car is well maintained with
minor scratches at the front bumper. Absolutely accident free. Price RM
2x,xxx.
Any takers?
Cheers.
#17
Posted 25 April 2006 - 09:43 PM
So, Accord22, your Accord H22A has been on the road for a few days
huh!!!!.. now you are a more Accord22 than before... kekekekke.. just
kidding.,,
This DOHC thing, is really amazing, at least happens on our Accords, not
forgetting the Preludes... hehe... Accord22, try maintaining your gear
positioned at 2, and go until 4000rpm, hold for a few seconds, floor the
accelerator when given the chance, notice the movement from 4000rpm to
6000rpm, oh my god, the respond... is bbbbbbery good neh...
Everytime when I do this, my car's "bee bee bee bee.." sound will come
out, shortly after I upshift to D3, where it reaches 105km/h and
going.... feels nice.... Ya right, I can easily reach 100km/h with auto
2nd gear... : )
huh!!!!.. now you are a more Accord22 than before... kekekekke.. just
kidding.,,
This DOHC thing, is really amazing, at least happens on our Accords, not
forgetting the Preludes... hehe... Accord22, try maintaining your gear
positioned at 2, and go until 4000rpm, hold for a few seconds, floor the
accelerator when given the chance, notice the movement from 4000rpm to
6000rpm, oh my god, the respond... is bbbbbbery good neh...
Everytime when I do this, my car's "bee bee bee bee.." sound will come
out, shortly after I upshift to D3, where it reaches 105km/h and
going.... feels nice.... Ya right, I can easily reach 100km/h with auto
2nd gear... : )
#18
Posted 25 April 2006 - 10:51 PM
Danny,
The engine was changed because the original 2.0 engine was due for
overhaul. My dad in law decided instead to go for halfcut. :)
btw sorry for riding the thread.
cheers.
The engine was changed because the original 2.0 engine was due for
overhaul. My dad in law decided instead to go for halfcut. :)
btw sorry for riding the thread.
cheers.
#19
Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:36 AM
Yo duck...
you are right man, RM0.30/km is scary, I think i got a lighter right foot
than machzero's dad, at least I will not tailgate constantly.... ha.
And, I do not have fuel sponsored by company, but subsidised, 60ct (wef
April) per km travelled for work,.. errr... not bad la, if not 100% I
will get about 80% fuel cost covered..
Except in one particular month, my fuel bill came out at RM590++, but I
only managed to claim about RM350 for the month, which is normal... I
could have done a lot of own travelling that month.. ????
you are right man, RM0.30/km is scary, I think i got a lighter right foot
than machzero's dad, at least I will not tailgate constantly.... ha.
And, I do not have fuel sponsored by company, but subsidised, 60ct (wef
April) per km travelled for work,.. errr... not bad la, if not 100% I
will get about 80% fuel cost covered..
Except in one particular month, my fuel bill came out at RM590++, but I
only managed to claim about RM350 for the month, which is normal... I
could have done a lot of own travelling that month.. ????
#20
Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:56 AM
dammit... I still get paid 50 cents a km when I go on site. Thankfully I
rarely do that anymore.
anyway, back to SM4s. I suspect the fuel economy on my father`s to a little
high cause he went "kiamsiap" and had his timing belt done at some damn
bengkel. They could have completely messed up his valve timings. At least
it`s a SOHC, a DOHC is even more picky about its valve adjustments.
However, I think I can get 10km/l if I drive it. Honda`s JP website posts
10.6km/l for the manual-city driving OR 9.6km/l for the automatic-city
driving. The US consumer guide (I got tons of old reference from that time
since I was car shopping) reports 9.5 to 11.2 km/l real world driving for
their USDM CBs. But they use 2.2litres with lower quality fuel.
Of course, this is with a well maintained SM/CB.
edit> we`re going to get our SM4 repainted soon, with some minor bodywork.
It`s still a good comfortable car and my father loves terrorising smaller
engined cars with it. He likes the size of the current accord but admits he
can`t drive it comfortably cause it`s too big with limited visiblity. He
likes the visibility and seating in my Si but can`t drive it (only one of
my friends can, and he sweats when he does).
also, regarding SMs and CBs... maybe someone who actually drives a CB can
clarify.... I suspect the malaysian SMs have much softer suspension than
the imported CBs. I`ve driven a CB6 before thanks to my old colleague.
http://www.honda.co....age/top_img.jpg
It was an USDM 2door 2.2 litre CB. There was more cabin noise than my
father`s SM4, but the handling almost as good as my Si (but the accord`s a
little heavier). Stiffer suspension, feels more accurate through turns.
rarely do that anymore.
anyway, back to SM4s. I suspect the fuel economy on my father`s to a little
high cause he went "kiamsiap" and had his timing belt done at some damn
bengkel. They could have completely messed up his valve timings. At least
it`s a SOHC, a DOHC is even more picky about its valve adjustments.
However, I think I can get 10km/l if I drive it. Honda`s JP website posts
10.6km/l for the manual-city driving OR 9.6km/l for the automatic-city
driving. The US consumer guide (I got tons of old reference from that time
since I was car shopping) reports 9.5 to 11.2 km/l real world driving for
their USDM CBs. But they use 2.2litres with lower quality fuel.
Of course, this is with a well maintained SM/CB.
edit> we`re going to get our SM4 repainted soon, with some minor bodywork.
It`s still a good comfortable car and my father loves terrorising smaller
engined cars with it. He likes the size of the current accord but admits he
can`t drive it comfortably cause it`s too big with limited visiblity. He
likes the visibility and seating in my Si but can`t drive it (only one of
my friends can, and he sweats when he does).
also, regarding SMs and CBs... maybe someone who actually drives a CB can
clarify.... I suspect the malaysian SMs have much softer suspension than
the imported CBs. I`ve driven a CB6 before thanks to my old colleague.
http://www.honda.co....age/top_img.jpg
It was an USDM 2door 2.2 litre CB. There was more cabin noise than my
father`s SM4, but the handling almost as good as my Si (but the accord`s a
little heavier). Stiffer suspension, feels more accurate through turns.