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Karl_Erik_Chee

Posted 16 September 2004 - 03:44 PM

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Audison

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Hello,
Does anyone here can tell me what's the different between the expensive
waxing product and the cheaper waxing product?
Thank you.
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About Me posted on 21-Jun-04 20:18 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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er, the price? *shrug*

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hehehe

Well I dunno about expensive or cheap but BETTER waxing products are not
abrasive i.e.
they don't strip your lacquer or paint away. The WORSE ones are abrasive
and work like a
cutter i.e. they strip a bit of the lacquer or paint each time you use it
so that ultimately your
paintwork is either exposed to the elements or worn thin.

I remember using a not-so-good waxing product (very well known and
reputable brand but
errr.. cheaper) for my polishing... about once a week and by then end of
about 6 months I
had no lacquer left and the paint followed in short order.

By no means is this exhaustive but I have found that Autoglym and
Meguairs are very very
good- the shine lasts a long time too with care and the use of proper
(i.e. their) shampoos
when washing.

Maybe other people can share their experiences?

Cheers

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Karl_Erik_Chee

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About Me posted on 22-Jun-04 2:48 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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Woh Boy!!! Okay, I do mix & match the products when I'm detailing my car.
What I have in my box are as follows:


1. Clay - Zaino
2. Polish - MG-Pro Diamond Cut, MG-Pro Swirl Free Polish & MG-Pro Speed
Glaze
3. Wax - 3M Show Car Paste Wax & Rain Dance - 3M still better.
4. Wet Sanding - 1,500 & 2,500 grit sandpaper
5. Trim - MG Foam, MG trim & MG Tech Series
6. Wheels - MG Hot Wheels
7. Car Shampoo - AutoGlym Body Conditioning & MG Shampoo
8. Bumper - AutoGlym Bumper Care
9. Glass Cleaner - AutoGlym Glass Polish & 3M Glass Cleaner
10.Others - MG Final Inspection & Quick Detailer

Audison, do get in touch with myAuto as he is one of CAM's detailing
master in the club & I learnt from him.

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About Me posted on 23-Jun-04 0:38 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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Karl_Erik_Chee,

Do you have the link to Zaino's products webpage? It's not sold here in
KCH, but i heard it's really good too compared to MG & AG...so would be
keen to give it a try.

I am currently using AG resin polish & Extra Gloss Protection on my red
aero...but i feel that i were to use AG shampoo, it's not economical, as
it's really expensive! So, any other shampoo brands to recommend as
alternative to AG shampoo, but at the same time, will not strip off the
AG
wax applied?

Another question: which product is good to be used to get rid of swirls?
Any advice?
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now, i need a paint job.

being a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected
part? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part
sprayed, can the difference be noticed?

I hear it\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true?
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About Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete]

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The smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel.

For example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray
the
entire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain
case,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably
can
just paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to
bumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just
the bumper spoiled by the accident..

Anyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their
opinion!
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Whoops!!

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About Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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10q 10q
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crlÁ€rfbu\n\nTotal Posts: 1597\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nmy car has metalic paint \n\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \n\nnow, i need a paint job. \n\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \n\nI hear it\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nMidNiteOil\n\nTotal Posts: 232\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \n\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \nthe \nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \ncan \njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \n\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \nopinion!\n---------------\n\nWhoops!!\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nrfbu\n\nTotal Posts: 1597\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\n10q 10q \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \n9@INSERT INTO ibf_posts (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES ('10927', '', '676', 'Karl_Erik_Chee', '218.208.87.90','1095441058', '1081', 'Migrated Topic: spray painting', '1', 'Karl_Erik_Chee', 'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac', '', 'rfbu\n\nTotal Posts: 1597\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nmy car has metalic paint \n\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \n\nnow, i need a paint job. \n\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \n\nI hear it\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nMidNiteOil\n\nTotal Posts: 232\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \n\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \nthe \nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \ncan \njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \n\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \nopinion!\n---------------\n\nWhoops!!\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nrfbu\n\nTotal Posts: 1597\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\n10q 10q \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \n','Karl_Erik_Chee@1');a1x&tjk

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members,

i drive altis. have heard that do not wash the engine - just wiping it
with a damp cloth shall do the work.

is this true ? or is there any trusted and experienced place where they
can perform a good engine wash ?

thanks.
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About Me posted on 8-Sep-04 12:00 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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Now days, most car engine a equip with electronic parts,electric and
water
don't mix..if mix short circuit might happen.Suggest to use of the shelf
engine spray cleaner.

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hi
if u wanna wash the engine ,cover the electrical parts 1st and dont use
high pressure water.use engine degreaser and hose off with flowing water.
probably a good idea to cover the belting as well.water and belts dont
get
along together
warm-up the engine after wash to get rid of any moisture.perhaps drive it
around your housing area; this is to blow air into the engine compartment
hope that helps
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I use strong air jet to clean the engine compartment.
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Suggest to use of the shelf engine spray cleaner.

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So, after spraying, clean with a dry cloth, is it ?

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use engine degreaser and hose off with flowing water. probably a good
idea
to cover the belting as well.

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so, the engine degreaser can be applied almost on any of the parts inside
the engine ? also, what do you use to cover those areas inside the engine
that you would not want to touch water or the degreaser ?

Thanks.
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can those air-pressure thing (which look like a can of aerosol) work ?
where to get the air-jet ?

how bout for those areas where there are grease or oil stain ? these
cannot be removed by the air-jet. any help ?

thanks.
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hi tjk
spray the engine degreaser to get rid of the oily/greasy stuff on the
engine, let it soak a while.you probably have to brush off the stain area
prior to hosing it off with the water.i normally cover the electrical
part
with the plastic wrap (the one that comes in rolls).repeat the process in
the event the oily area remains


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now, i need a paint job.

being a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected
part? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part
sprayed, can the difference be noticed?

I hear it\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true?
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Karl_Erik_Chee

Posted 16 September 2004 - 03:45 PM

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First that Wurth Powerblitz stuff can be had at Gervasi Auto Services
which is a Peugeot
workshop in UEP subang jaya- take fed highway going towards Shah Alam,
pay RM1 toll at
Batu 3, then take first left exit off fed highway. Go straight until you
PASS a mosque on your
left then take next left turn (junction without traffic lights), then
follow road through until
you get to another traffic light where you turn left then first right
then right again, follow
road around and you'll see a whole bunch of Peugeots. Apart from the
powerblitz
screenwash they sell Wurth wipers and Wurth engine oil- good stuff!!

Garycct.... yes I use only the AutoGylm stuff to wash the car- every week-
and it lasts a
good 4 months for the 500cc bottle so I suppose price is ok lah and will
get better when the
1 litre bottles become available. As for Meguair's well... I've seen the
results and its good
stuff only I've invested so heavily in AutoGlym it won't be easy to
switch even if MG is better
so I'll stick to AG for the time being.

Zaino stuff is supposed to be absolutely brilliant but not easy to get
hold of (at least I don't
know where to get it) and not the easiest thing to apply properly. So
again I reckon I'll stick
to AG for now.

Dunno about swirls and scratches lah... for me I've always taken the err
traditional route i.e.
a cutter but maybe someone else will be along in a moment who can give
better advice.

Cheers

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DIRAVIdude,no,I never polish my car before since I bought it.Only manage
to wash the car once a week.I just start waxing my car last week(After
washing it).Wow,the cloth was damn dirty.Is it mean that I need to polish
my car first bfor waxing?
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Oh like that ah?

Ok then I'm not surprised the cloth was dirty- what you did there was
remove years worth of
ingrained dirt so the good news is that most of that has been removed and
next time you
try it the cloth won't get quite so dirty.

What I usually do is wash then polish then wax. I think some people wash
then wax directly
after but these are guys who are truly fanatical about their car finishes
and so they wax
pretty often- often enough that the polish never has a chance to come
off.... maybe
something like once a week.

Lazy beggars like me do it only 4 times a year so yeah... I got to do it
all every time.

Cheers

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Hi Guys, VERY VERY VERY SORRY as I've not been able to get on a PC for
the whole week.

Also, would love to answers those who have asked me questions & for those
who private messaged me. However, for those who PM'd me, there's a no
reply option.

So, therefore, pls be informed that MyAuto & me will be detailing a car
today 26/6/04 from 9.30am onwards in Taman Desa, KL.

For directions, pls call me at 019-2886736 and we'll be able to answer
your questions during the detailing sow. I\'‰[INSERT INTO ibf_posts (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES ('10929', '', '676', 'Karl_Erik_Chee', '203.121.78.10','1095320697', '1083', 'Migrated Topic: Wax Product', '1', 'Karl_Erik_Chee', '68d28adef6c3e9e0aca664efecd7c0a0', '', 'Audison\n\nTotal Posts: 79\nMember Since: 23-Nov-2003\nAbout Me posted on 21-Jun-04 18:14 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nHello, \nDoes anyone here can tell me what\'s the different between the expensive \nwaxing product and the cheaper waxing product? \nThank you. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nRedd\n\nTotal Posts: 200\nMember Since: 19-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 21-Jun-04 20:18 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\ner, the price? *shrug* \n\nredd\n---------------\nElectricity comes from electrons; morality comes from morons. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nDIRAVIdude\n\nTotal Posts: 615\nMember Since: 7-Dec-2003\nAbout Me posted on 22-Jun-04 1:46 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nhehehe \n\nWell I dunno about expensive or cheap but BETTER waxing products are not \nabrasive i.e. \nthey don\'t strip your lacquer or paint away. The WORSE ones are abrasive \nand work like a \ncutter i.e. they strip a bit of the lacquer or paint each time you use it \nso that ultimately your \npaintwork is either exposed to the elements or worn thin. \n\nI remember using a not-so-good waxing product (very well known and \nreputable brand but \nerrr.. cheaper) for my polishing... about once a week and by then end of \nabout 6 months I \nhad no lacquer left and the paint followed in short order. \n\nBy no means is this exhaustive but I have found that Autoglym and \nMeguairs are very very \ngood- the shine lasts a long time too with care and the use of proper \n(i.e. their) shampoos \nwhen washing. \n\nMaybe other people can share their experiences? \n\nCheers \n\nDIRAVI\n---------------\n\nMacOSX- Because making UNIX user-friendly is easier than debugging Windows\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nKarl_Erik_Chee\n\nTotal Posts: 661\nMember Since: 25-Oct-2000\nAbout Me posted on 22-Jun-04 2:48 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nWoh Boy!!! Okay, I do mix & match the products when I\'m detailing my car. \nWhat I have in my box are as follows: \n\n\n1. Clay - Zaino \n2. Polish - MG-Pro Diamond Cut, MG-Pro Swirl Free Polish & MG-Pro Speed \nGlaze \n3. Wax - 3M Show Car Paste Wax & Rain Dance - 3M still better. \n4. Wet Sanding - 1,500 & 2,500 grit sandpaper \n5. Trim - MG Foam, MG trim & MG Tech Series \n6. Wheels - MG Hot Wheels \n7. Car Shampoo - AutoGlym Body Conditioning & MG Shampoo \n8. Bumper - AutoGlym Bumper Care \n9. Glass Cleaner - AutoGlym Glass Polish & 3M Glass Cleaner \n10.Others - MG Final Inspection & Quick Detailer \n\nAudison, do get in touch with myAuto as he is one of CAM\'s detailing \nmaster in the club & I learnt from him. \n\n---------------\n\nExklusivität durch Zahlen\n\nNie ein Schritt rückwärts, nie ein Fußunrecht\n\nAudi für immer\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ngarycct\n\nTotal Posts: 754\nMember Since: 27-Dec-2001\nAbout Me posted on 23-Jun-04 0:38 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nKarl_Erik_Chee, \n\nDo you have the link to Zaino\'s products webpage? It\'s not sold here in \nKCH, but i heard it\'s really good too compared to MG & AG...so would be \nkeen to give it a try. \n\nI am currently using AG resin polish & Extra Gloss Protection on my red \naero...but i feel that i were to use AG shampoo, it\'s not economical, as \nit\'s really expensive! So, any other shampoo brands to recommend as \nalternative to AG shampoo, but at the same time, will not strip off the \nAG \nwax applied? \n\nAnother question: which product is good to be used to get rid of swirls? \nAny advice? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nRedd\n\nTotal Posts: 200\nMember Since: 19-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 23-Jun-04 1:17 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n-------------------------------------\0ow. I\\\'x&\0\0\0\0X•X•8S3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0s (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES (\'10927\', \'\', \'676\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'218.208.87.90\',\'1095441058\', \'1081\', \'Migrated Topic: spray painting\', \'1\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac\', \'\', \'rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\049\0\08\0\0INSERT INTO ibf_posts (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES (\'10927\', \'\', \'676\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'218.208.87.90\',\'1095441058\', \'1081\', \'Migrated Topic: spray painting\', \'1\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac\', \'\', \'rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0s\0\09\0\0ȥȥh†\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0f]\nnow, i need a paint job. \n\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \n\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nMidNiteOil\n\nTotal Posts: 232\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \n\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \nthe \nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \ncan \njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \n\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \nopinion!\n---------------\n\nWhoops!!\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nrfbu\n\nTotal Posts: 1597\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\n10q 10q \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \n\0crlÁ\0\0€\0\0rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\09\0\0@\0\0INSERT INTO ibf_posts (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES (\'10927\', \'\', \'676\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'218.208.87.90\',\'1095441058\', \'1081\', \'Migrated Topic: spray painting\', \'1\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac\', \'\', \'rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0a1\0\0x&\0\0tjk\n\nTotal Posts: 141\nMember Since: 26-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 8-Sep-04 11:19 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nmembers, \n\ni drive altis. have heard that do not wash the engine - just wiping it \nwith a damp cloth shall do the work. \n\nis this true ? or is there any trusted and experienced place where they \ncan perform a good engine wash ? \n\nthanks. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nisetop\n\nTotal Posts: 20\nMember Since: 2-Sep-2004\nAbout Me posted on 8-Sep-04 12:00 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nNow days, most car engine a equip with electronic parts,electric and \nwater \ndon\'t mix..if mix short circuit might happen.Suggest to use of the shelf \nengine spray cleaner. \n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nmegatnh\n\nTotal Posts: 255\nMember Since: 28-Nov-2000\nAbout Me posted on 8-Sep-04 12:28 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nhi \nif u wanna wash the engine ,cover the electrical parts 1st and dont use \nhigh pressure water.use engine degreaser and hose off with flowing water. \nprobably a good idea to cover the belting as well.water and belts dont \nget \nalong together \nwarm-up the engine after wash to get rid of any moisture.perhaps drive it \naround your housing area; this is to blow air into the engine compartment \nhope that helps\n---------------\nmeg \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ncash\n\nTotal Posts: 27\nMember Since: 12-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 8-Sep-04 21:22 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nI use strong air jet to clean the engine compartment. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ntjk\n\nTotal Posts: 141\nMember Since: 26-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 9-Sep-04 10:49 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nSuggest to use of the shelf engine spray cleaner. \n\n---- \n\nSo, after spraying, clean with a dry cloth, is it ? \n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ntjk\n\nTotal Posts: 141\nMember Since: 26-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 9-Sep-04 10:51 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nuse engine degreaser and hose off with flowing water. probably a good \nidea \nto cover the belting as well. \n\n----- \n\nso, the engine degreaser can be applied almost on any of the parts inside \nthe engine ? also, what do you use to cover those areas inside the engine \nthat you would not want to touch water or the degreaser ? \n\nThanks. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ntjk\n\nTotal Posts: 141\nMember Since: 26-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 9-Sep-04 10:53 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\n\ncan those air-pressure thing (which look like a can of aerosol) work ? \nwhere to get the air-jet ? \n\nhow bout for those areas where there are grease or oil stain ? these \ncannot be removed by the air-jet. any help ? \n\nthanks. \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nmegatnh\n\nTotal Posts: 255\nMember Since: 28-Nov-2000\nAbout Me posted on 9-Sep-04 17:00 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nhi tjk \nspray the engine degreaser to get rid of the oily/greasy stuff on the \nengine, let it soak a while.you probably have to brush off the stain area \nprior to hosing it off with the water.i normally cover the electrical \npart \nwith the plastic wrap (the one that comes in rolls).repeat the process in \nthe event the oily area remains \n\n\n---------------\nmeg \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \ncash\n\nTotal Posts: 27\nMember Since: 12-May-2004\nAbout Me posted on 11-Sep-04 3:22 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------\0ow. I\\\'€\0\0\0\0X•X•4S3\0àì\0\0\0\0s (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES (\'10927\', \'\', \'676\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'218.208.87.90\',\'1095441058\', \'1081\', \'Migrated Topic: spray painting\', \'1\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac\', \'\', \'rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\049\0\08\0\0INSERT INTO ibf_posts (pid, edit_time, author_id, author_name, ip_address, post_date, topic_id, post_title, new_topic, edit_name, post_key, post_parent, post, old_UserID) VALUES (\'10927\', \'\', \'676\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'218.208.87.90\',\'1095441058\', \'1081\', \'Migrated Topic: spray painting\', \'1\', \'Karl_Erik_Chee\', \'dd0dbb0976dad1fc05a28ae8c3db5dac\', \'\', \'rfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 11:34 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nmy car has metalic paint \\n\\nrecently, my car bashed into another car \\n\\nnow, i need a paint job. \\n\\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0s\0\09\0\0ȥȥh†\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0f]\nnow, i need a paint job. \n\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \n\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nMidNiteOil\n\nTotal Posts: 232\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------','Karl_Erik_Chee@1');`‰[àðàðXx\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0s\0\09\0\0ȥȥh†\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0f]
now, i need a paint job.

being a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected
part? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part
sprayed, can the difference be noticed?

I hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true?
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MidNiteOil

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--------------------------------em@©cùù˜þ Me posted on 10-Sep-04 1:11 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nHmmm...I had bought Bosch 270ae.....Anyway thanks\n---------------\nAct \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nKarl_Erik_Chee\n\nTotal Posts: 700\nMember Since: 25-Oct-2000\nAbout Me posted on 10-Sep-04 9:23 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nzeytee.....learn from me???? Don\'t jest lar!!! The person you wanna learn \nfrom is Albert lar. \n---------------\n\nExklusivität durch Zahlen\n\nNie ein Schritt rückwärts, nie ein Fußunrecht\n\nAudi für immer\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nbfs621\n\nTotal Posts: 207\nMember Since: 14-Jun-2003\nAbout Me posted on 10-Sep-04 12:57 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nme here 270ae is around Rm 480 6 month warranty. Another one is black & \ndecker 170e if not mistaken cannot find at B&D site malaysia no authorise \ndealer or just parallel importer.(anyone)? \n\nanother brand i see is AEG that 1 very powerfull. \n\nanother thuing is AMP means anything? b& d and bosch is 1.5amp while the \nAEG is 4AMp.so the bigger amp more tahan lasak? \n\nand sander cannot remove swril mark maust use grinder? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \n','Karl_Erik_Chee@1'); [aw_cr€1cloth, although I still considered it to be over-
priced. Get one while you still can as MG`s stopped shipping them months
ago.

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Hello,
Does anyone here can tell me what's the different between the expensive
waxing product and the cheaper waxing product?
Thank you.
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hehehe

Well I dunno about expensive or cheap but BETTER waxing products are not
abrasive i.e.
they don't strip your lacquer or paint away. The WORSE ones are abrasive
and work like a
cutter i.e. they strip a bit of the lacquer or paint each time you use it
so that ultimately your
paintwork is either exposed to the elements or worn thin.

I remember using a not-so-good waxing product (very well known and
reputable brand but
errr.. cheaper) for my polishing... about once a week and by then end of
about 6 months I
had no lacquer left and the paint followed in short order.

By no means is this exhaustive but I have found that Autoglym and
Meguairs are very very
good- the shine lasts a long time too with care and the use of proper
(i.e. their) shampoos
when washing.

Maybe other people can share their experiences?

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Woh Boy!!! Okay, I do mix & match the products when I'm detailing my car.
What I have in my box are as follows:


1. Clay - Zaino
2. Polish - MG-Pro Diamond Cut, MG-Pro Swirl Free Polish & MG-Pro Speed
Glaze
3. Wax - 3M Show Car Paste Wax & Rain Dance - 3M still better.
4. Wet Sanding - 1,500 & 2,500 grit sandpaper
5. Trim - MG Foam, MG trim & MG Tech Series
6. Wheels - MG Hot Wheels
7. Car Shampoo - AutoGlym Body Conditioning & MG Shampoo
8. Bumper - AutoGlym Bumper Care
9. Glass Cleaner - AutoGlym Glass Polish & 3M Glass Cleaner
10.Others - MG Final Inspection & Quick Detailer

Audison, do get in touch with myAuto as he is one of CAM's detailing
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Karl_Erik_Chee,

Do you have the link to Zaino's products webpage? It's not sold here in
KCH, but i heard it's really good too compared to MG & AG...so would be
keen to give it a try.

I am currently using AG resin polish & Extra Gloss Protection on my red
aero...but i feel that i were to use AG shampoo, it's not economical, as
it's really expensive! So, any other shampoo brands to recommend as
alternative to AG shampoo, but at the same time, will not strip off the
AG
wax applied?

Another question: which product is good to be used to get rid of swirls?
Any advice?
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 03:47 PM

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Audison...

I think I'll take the question lah since KEC is probably wet sanding
something.....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AG Super Resin Polish is RM86.90 (last time I bought it- which was about
a year ago) for a 1
litre bottle. I've still got about 2/3 of the bottle left so it doesn't
cost too much.

I think you can get it in 500cc bottles for about RM50 or RM60. Should be
worth a try I
think. AG stuff is not cheap but you do get a pretty darned good shine
for your money- and
I think it's about the cheapest truly non-abrasive polish you can buy. I
may be wrong
though.

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Hi Guys, sorry for being MIA for a while. Have been down with flu for the
whole week.

Anyway, back in action......

Okie, Audison - I've got a bottle of AG's super resin polish left that I
don't use anymore. Not to say that it isn't good but I've migrated over
to MG's Pro series already. If you wanna try it, pls come over and get
it.

Someone else was asking about Rain Dance Wax - I have some for tests.

Anyway, tonight confirmed wet-sanding my car again. Call me at 019-
2886736 if you guys are coming over.
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Hi,

What is wet-sanding? What is the benefit to do that? Pls advise.

Thanks.
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Wet-sanding is when you use a fine grit sandpaper + lots of water then
you will sand down the panel that you're working on.

This will remove the following:
1. Light scratches
2. Swirl marks
3. Orange peels
4. Uneven paint surfaces
5. Oxidization

If you wanna see how it is done, call me.
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Hi,

Does wet-sanding remove water spot on the paint as well?

thanks.
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if cannot see KEC diy then try this site.


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Posted 16 September 2004 - 03:48 PM

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CHICKEN!!!!!!!!

Must make the mistakes to learn something.

If you really like your car, then I'd suggest you go kereta-potong shop,
buy a bonnet and experiment lar.
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no lah i haven't get my orbitar buffer yet. cos still survery around see
the hitaci 1 Rm 780 ohhhhh. anthor one MG ppl also using Rm 800 ohhhh.
expensive llah. any recomend?
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Anyone here use Turtle Wax product?
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Where can I find Autoglym product? I tried most petrol stations in
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Can't find? I thought over there in West M'sia u can actually get it from
Jusco? I got mine in The Tint-Shop actually...can try search there too!
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To followup on pwira97's question, I found a supposedly superfast wax
finish product called Express Shine from Turtle Wax. It's a spray on type
and just wipe. No real buffing required. Anyone used before?
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Actually that's a good question. For the amount of the stuff I use I've
got no idea where to
buy it in KL. I only pick it up when I balik kampung to Penang and then I
buy it from One-
Stop in Penang..... but I really got no idea where to get it in KL/PJ.

Maybe you can go for Meguair's stuff- easily obtained from Ace Hardware-
at least the
consumer range is and it's every bit as good as AutoGlym. For the prime
stuff look to KEC
for help.

Good luck

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Sorry for the MIA condition again.....it is sad to see my car's paintwork
condition is very much better than showroom cars....

Just got back from MG's car detailing clinic at a car showroom. The demo
cars were good but the showroom cars paintwork....bad!!!.

It is a sad sad day.............
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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Okay guys, the picture us up. Take a look at the wax comparison.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Ha,at last this topic celebrate the 100 POST.
Thanks for many reply, especially KEC, who tried to answer all the
questionS everyday.

Since my car has the `100` symbol,the 100 are very meaningful to me.
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hi there,

I just got my 1st set of AG consist of 325ml car shampoo & cond + super
resin polish for RM61 at jusco yesterday. Thinking of buying the Xtra
gloss too but find it bit expensive RM68 for 325ml
My questions are...1)did AG have a wax product or the Xtra gloss act as a
wax for AG product..I was thinking to buy MG Nxt Tech for waxing.
2) What cloth do you guys use for polising..? Most off the shelves cloth
i found only suitable for buffing purpose only.
Thanks
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Dude....

The Extra Gloss Protection is the AG wax equivalent- it's a wax/polymer
sealant type thing-
good stuff and not at all expensive. I only need it 4 times a year- if
you only got 1 car the
bottle will last you quite a few years- mine is already more than 2 years
old and still going
strong.

KEC willl say different of course- that you got to chuck it after a
couple of years- but he
don't agree with me on many things when it comes to what sort of stuff to
use.

Of course his car looks very different from mine too lah- I dare not park
my car next to his.

Hehehe

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EGP is wax equivalent. But i find it rather hard to apply.
It is like water and we only have to put a little on a cloth and spread
it
evently on the car. It is clear in color(n watery) which also makes it
difficult to spread it evently.

Wax is easier to apply because its kinda oily.

How do u guys apply the EGP? I still have half bottle of EGP left...
and what cloth to use to apply n buff of the EGP?
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Thanks for your info. You clear my shade already..
Yeah..by the way, how you apply the watery EGP evenly throughout the
surface.? and if i still insist on using the nxt tech was (MG) anyone
experienced the incompatible btw AG & MG.? Reason being I read from an
article saying that you better stick to one brand for a better result.
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I think I said that- the reason being that when a manufactuow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Okay guys, the picture us up. Take a look at the wax comparison.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Okay guys, the picture us up. Take a look at the wax comparison.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

Total Posts: 153
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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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About Me posted on 28-Jul-04 10:36 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

Total Posts: 153
Member Since: 19-Dec-2003
About Me posted on 26-Jul-04 20:00 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete]

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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-----éR@è@è4S3-----------------------------------\\n------\\nNow days, most car engine a equip with electronic parts,electric and \\nwater \\ndon\\\'t mix..if mix short circuit might happen.Suggest to use of the shelf \\nengine spray cleaner. \\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nmegatnh\\n\\nTotal Posts: 255\\nMember Since: 28-Nov-2000\\nAbout Me posted on 8-Sep-04 12:28 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nhi \\nif u wanna wash the engine ,cover the electrical parts 1st and dont use \\nhigh pressure water.use engine degreaser and hose off with flowing water. \\nprobably a good idea to cover the belting as well.water and beltsl lid ÙU0ë0ë4S3 say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0s\0\09\0\0ȥȥh†\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0f]\nnow, i need a paint job. \n\nbeing a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected \npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \n\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nMidNiteOil\n\nTotal Posts: 232\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------','Karl_Erik_Chee@1');`‰[àðàðXx\npart? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part \\nsprayed, can the difference be noticed? \\n\\nI hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true? \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nMidNiteOil\\n\\nTotal Posts: 232\\nMember Since: 16-Jan-2004\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 16:23 [edited 1 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\nThe smallest panel you can spray alone is the fuel lid panel. \\n\\nFor example,Let say you banged one of your doors,you need not to spray \\nthe \\nentire car! Just enough to spray for just one door. However, on certain \\ncase,some doors may have been divided by a door-guard-strip, you probably \\ncan \\njust paint half the door upper or lower of the d-g-strip! Similarly to \\nbumper, no need to spray other panels such as boot lid or bonnet if just \\nthe bumper spoiled by the accident.. \\n\\nAnyway, the painter knows what best for you and your car! Just ask their \\nopinion!\\n---------------\\n\\nWhoops!!\\n \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\nrfbu\\n\\nTotal Posts: 1597\\nMember Since: 10-Dec-2002\\nAbout Me posted on 7-Sep-04 20:15 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \\n\\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\\n------\\n10q 10q \\n Reply Messages Complaint \\n \\n\',\'Karl_Erik_Chee@1\');\0s\0\09\0\0ȥȥh†\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0f]
now, i need a paint job.

being a stingy poker like I am, is it possible just to spray the affected
part? maybe just a few square inches. if i get just the affected part
sprayed, can the difference be noticed?

I hear it\\\'s necessary to spray the entire car, is that true?
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--------------------------------em@©cùù˜þ Me posted on 10-Sep-04 1:11 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nHmmm...I had bought Bosch 270ae.....Anyway thanks\n---------------\nAct \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nKarl_Erik_Chee\n\nTotal Posts: 700\nMember Since: 25-Oct-2000\nAbout Me posted on 10-Sep-04 9:23 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nzeytee.....learn from me???? Don\'t jest lar!!! The person you wanna learn \nfrom is Albert lar. \n---------------\n\nExklusivität durch Zahlen\n\nNie ein Schritt rückwärts, nie ein Fußunrecht\n\nAudi für immer\n \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \nbfs621\n\nTotal Posts: 207\nMember Since: 14-Jun-2003\nAbout Me posted on 10-Sep-04 12:57 [edited 0 times] [edit] [delete] \n\n--------------------------------------------------------------------------\n------\nme here 270ae is around Rm 480 6 month warranty. Another one is black & \ndecker 170e if not mistaken cannot find at B&D site malaysia no authorise \ndealer or just parallel importer.(anyone)? \n\nanother brand i see is AEG that 1 very powerfull. \n\nanother thuing is AMP means anything? b& d and bosch is 1.5amp while the \nAEG is 4AMp.so the bigger amp more tahan lasak? \n\nand sander cannot remove swril mark maust use grinder? \n Reply Messages Complaint \n \n','Karl_Erik_Chee@1'); [aw_cr€1cloth, although I still considered it to be over-
priced. Get one while you still can as MG`s stopped shipping them months
ago.

The same can be said for their Ultimate Bonnets and Wash Mitts...
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Ha,at last this topic celebrate the 100 POST.
Thanks for many reply, especially KEC, who tried to answer all the
questionS everyday.

Since my car has the `100` symbol,the 100 are very meaningful to me.
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hi there,

I just got my 1st set of AG consist of 325ml car shampoo & cond + super
resin polish for RM61 at jusco yesterday. Thinking of buying the Xtra
gloss too but find it bit expensive RM68 for 325ml
My questions are...1)did AG have a wax product or the Xtra gloss act as a
wax for AG product..I was thinking to buy MG Nxt Tech for waxing.
2) What cloth do you guys use for polising..? Most off the shelves cloth
i found only suitable for buffing purpose only.
Thanks
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Dude....

The Extra Gloss Protection is the AG wax equivalent- it's a wax/polymer
sealant type thing-
good stuff and not at all expensive. I only need it 4 times a year- if
you only got 1 car the
bottle will last you quite a few years- mine is already more than 2 years
old and still going
strong.

KEC willl say different of course- that you got to chuck it after a
couple of years- but he
don't agree with me on many things when it comes to what sort of stuff to
use.

Of course his car looks very different from mine too lah- I dare not park
my car next to his.

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EGP is wax equivalent. But i find it rather hard to apply.
It is like water and we only have to put a little on a cloth and spread
it
evently on the car. It is clear in color(n watery) which also makes it
difficult to spread it evently.

Wax is easier to apply because its kinda oily.

How do u guys apply the EGP? I still have half bottle of EGP left...
and what cloth to use to apply n buff of the EGP?
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Hi garycct.....

AG shampoo conditioner is flourescent green in colour and yeah it's
watery. Just a little
thicker than water. But that's the consumer stuff. AG has a special range
that is available
ONLY to its car detailing outlets and yeah- the performance of those
products is much
better than the commercially available stuff.

Maybe that's what you got. Bluish green doesn't sound like the stuff I
got. Heck dude... give
it a go. Now that you know how to use SRP and EGP, go right ahead man.
And tell us all how
it went.

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Hi DIRAVi,

I don't really know how to describe the colour actually! Yes, it does
look like fluorescent green but bit blueish lah...i can't compare as i
don't have a bottle of retail range to compare...maybe i'll leave some
until i get one when the stock is available to see whether got any
difference! But, it's watery and slightly thicker than water...

Yes, the 500 ml i got in mineral water bottle was actually from
authorised
AG car grooming centre which is also the Tint-Shop franchise...!

I just used it to wash my kancil just now...as expected, much much lesser
bubbles than the common car shampoo! I don't know if i had put in too
little amount of the shampoo, i just put about 3/4 full of the 500 ml
mineral water cap! too little i guess? But, the taukeh did tell me it's
very concentrated!

However, as my kancil was previously applied with PermaGlass and washed
with PermaGlass Wash & Shine, so i can't really see the result...but i
can
see that it does make the car bit more shiny after that...washing off
dirt
also no problem!

I need to wash it on my aero next week to see the result, as it's been
applied with SRP & EGP...but, overall, satisfied! Will wait for the new
packing to come. It's not easy to get AG here, so far i only found it in
this shop!

Will update more after i try on my kenari next week...thanks DIRAVI.




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Hi everyone!

Just wanna ask the differences between polish and wax...How often to do
both? N i seen clay as well...what to do with the clay 4 wat purpose?
Normally i just use Polyglaze wash and wax for the washing not waxing...n
used metalic kit to wax...
How do a car lover make the car shining everyday? Do give sum step by
steps instruction for the sake of my precious...
pls list out what u all used or recommend to use for wash wax n
polish...or more

me..
Wash : Polyglaze
Wax : Metalic Kit
Polish : ???
others likes bumper, rim, windscreen cleaner : ???
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Hi fishbone....

I think all your questions have been covered in the first couple of pages
in this thread. Go
check it out and if you still got any questions post em here lah.....

As for polyglaze i think there is a "Polymer Sealant" thread one page 2
or 3 of this Forum to
see the difference between polymer sealants (which includes polyglaze)
and traditional
waxes.

Cheers... and keep the car shiningow. I\'èjX•X•Member Since: 19-Dec-2003
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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Okay guys, the picture us up. Take a look at the wax comparison.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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Okay guys, the picture us up. Take a look at the wax comparison.
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KEC,

Looking at the photo, the left hand side of bonet with 12 layers of Zaino
was full of circular "lines" under sunlight...are those swirls marks? I
get lots of similar things this on my red aeow. I\'i<oldaudi

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KEC, r u sure that product can really removes the RUST? Somebody adviced
me to use AUTOSOL, but I scared it will scratch the rims.
Thank you.
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bfs621,

thanks for the info. No, i don't drive to Miri...tiring...i normally fly
and then use the company car there...i normally travel there on business
trip...my branch office is in saberkas...not far from
boulevard...yep...i'd let you know if i have the time to go around and
shop...!

haha, KEC mad already...thanks again, will matt for further details.
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Oldaudi, sorry - was reading too fast & had thought that you had rust
stains as opposed to the rims rusting.

The person who advised you to use AUTOSOL is correct. However it will
depend on the rim's finishing. From the AUTOSOL range, you could use
either the Metal Polish, Stainless Steel Polish or Marine Shine.

If the rim's clear coat has peeled off, then I'd suggest that you send to
Hup Soon to have it refurbished.
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Guys, found this on an international detailing site. It is the comparison
of 12 layers of Zaino vs. 1 layer of MG's Tech Wax.

Picture will not be available till the photo admin clear's it. Do check
back from time to time.
URL: http://www.autoworld.../listPhoto.asp?
AId=3240&MID=Karl%5FErik%5FChee%401&chk=I

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Ok,thanks KEC for reply.
But anyway,where is Hup Soon?
Thank you.
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To all Sifus,

Need help here...i have bought Autoglass "Cut and Polish" product..can i
use it for a new "solid colour" car? bcoz from the label,it says for
3years and above..so can i use it?if not,i think i hav bought the wrong
type..

sorry sifus..but there r too much products tat make me dizzy..y there r
alwaz WASH N WAX product and not POLISH N WAX product? really
curious..and
i cant get a "100%" polish or wax product..da products u all
mention,quite
far n xpensive..

any recommendation for just POLISH product and just WAX product? thank u
very much
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hehehe

Dude.... I dunno anything about autoglass lah. The thing is that usually
a cutter is an
extremely abrasive polish- almost a cutting compound. I think what you
got there
describing itself as "cut and polish" is basically a cutter with a bit of
polish mixed in.

The AG equivalent is called Paint Renovator and how all cutters work is
alike a very very very
fine sandpaper to remove (i.e. "cut") away a thin layer of paint or
lacquer. It's used to remove
the top layer of (hopefully) dull oxidised paint/lacquer. That's why they
say it's for cars 3
years or older although a properly maintained (i.e. regularly washed
polished and waxed
surface and kept out of the sun as much as possible) can last at least 6
years if not more.

New cars and new paintjobs do not need this- they don't have oxidation
and so the
emphasis is to maintain as much of the paint as possible and so a cutter
is the worst
possible thing you can do to it.

You know the signs for oxidised paint- water soaks into it- i.e. after
you wash and wipe dry
you can still see water mark, polishing works only for a few days and the
paint is generally
very dull- no gleam at all. If your car isn't showing these symptoms you
DO NOT need a
cutter.

"Wash and wax" products are shampoos with a lil bitty wax mixed in- some
are pretty good
and some are downright awful.

Polishes function to deep clean the paint and maybe lay down a lil layer
of wax- waxes are
well... wax- oils which shine the car up for you.

As for recommended products... well dude..... that's been more than
adequately covered
further up this thread..... page 1 and 2. AG and MG for me. KEC uses 3M
wax and it's good
stuff but beyond that, sorry man.

Cheers

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Guys, I'll be in Penang this coming Friday 17/9/04 till Sunday 19/9/04.

So you guys up north, wanna TT/Demo?

Swoon, can you arrange something at PISA?

Diravi - you coming????
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Wah lau eh.... bey ka ngam liao lo........ I'm going up there kebetulanly
this friday and will
stay till monday or tuesday.

See you northern dudes then.

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To all Sifus,

Need help here...i have bought Autoglass "Cut and Polish" product..can i
use it for a new "solid colour" car? bcoz from the label,it says for
3years and above..so can i use it?if not,i think i hav bought the wrong
type..

sorry sifus..but there r too much products tat make me dizzy..y there r
alwaz WASH N WAX product and not POLISH N WAX product? really
curious..and
i cant get a "100%" polish or wax product..da products u all
mention,quite
far n xpensive..

any recommendation for just POLISH product and just WAX product? thank u
very much
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hehehe

Dude.... I dunno anything about autoglass lah. The thing is that usually
a cutter is an
extremely abrasive polish- almost a cutting compound. I think what you
got there
describing itself as "cut and polish" is basically a cutter with a bit of
polish mixed in.

The AG equivalent is called Paint Renovator and how all cutters work is
alike a very very very
fine sandpaper to remove (i.e. "cut") away a thin layer of paint or
lacquer. It's used to remove
the top layer of (hopefully) dull oxidised paint/lacquer. That's why they
say it's for cars 3
years or older although a properly maintained (i.e. regularly washed
polished and waxed
surface and kept out of the sun as much as possible) can last at least 6
years if not more.

New cars and new paintjobs do not need this- they don't have oxidation
and so the
emphasis is to maintain as much of the paint as possible and so a cutter
is the worst
possible thing you can do to it.

You know the signs for oxidised paint- water soaks into it- i.e. after
you wash and wipe dry
you can still see water mark, polishing works only for a few days and the
paint is generally
very dull- no gleam at all. If your car isn't showing these symptoms you
DO NOT need a
cutter.

"Wash and wax" products are shampoos with a lil bitty wax mixed in- some
are pretty good
and some are downright awful.

Polishes function to deep clean the paint and maybe lay down a lil layer
of wax- waxes are
well... wax- oils which shine the car up for you.

As for recommended products... well dude..... that's been more than
adequately covered
further up this thread..... page 1 and 2. AG and MG for me. KEC uses 3M
wax and it's good
stuff but beyond that, sorry man.

Cheers

DIRAVI
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Guys, I'll be in Penang this coming Friday 17/9/04 till Sunday 19/9/04.

So you guys up north, wanna TT/Demo?

Swoon, can you arrange something at PISA?

Diravi - you coming????
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Wah lau eh.... bey ka ngam liao lo........ I'm going up there kebetulanly
this friday and will
stay till monday or tuesday.

See you northern dudes then.

DIRAVI
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To all Sifus,

Need help here...i have bought Autoglass "Cut and Polish" product..can i
use it for a new "solid colour" car? bcoz from the label,it says for
3years and above..so can i use it?if not,i think i hav bought the wrong
type..

sorry sifus..but there r too much products tat make me dizzy..y there r
alwaz WASH N WAX product and not POLISH N WAX product? really
curious..and
i cant get a "100%" polish or wax product..da products u all
mention,quite
far n xpensive..

any recommendation for just POLISH product and just WAX product? thank u
very much
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DIRAVIdude

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hehehe

Dude.... I dunno anything about autoglass lah. The thing is that usually
a cutter is an
extremely abrasive polish- almost a cutting compound. I think what you
got there
describing itself as "cut and polish" is basically a cutter with a bit of
polish mixed in.

The AG equivalent is called Paint Renovator and how all cutters work is
alike a very very very
fine sandpaper to remove (i.e. "cut") away a thin layer of paint or
lacquer. It's used to remove
the top layer of (hopefully) dull oxidised paint/lacquer. That's why they
say it's for cars 3
years or older although a properly maintained (i.e. regularly washed
polished and waxed
surface and kept out of the sun as much as possible) can last at least 6
years if not more.

New cars and new paintjobs do not need this- they don't have oxidation
and so the
emphasis is to maintain as much of the paint as possible and so a cutter
is the worst
possible thing you can do to it.

You know the signs for oxidised paint- water soaks into it- i.e. after
you wash and wipe dry
you can still see water mark, polishing works only for a few days and the
paint is generally
very dull- no gleam at all. If your car isn't showing these symptoms you
DO NOT need a
cutter.

"Wash and wax" products are shampoos with a lil bitty wax mixed in- some
are pretty good
and some are downright awful.

Polishes function to deep clean the paint and maybe lay down a lil layer
of wax- waxes are
well... wax- oils which shine the car up for you.

As for recommended products... well dude..... that's been more than
adequately covered
further up this thread..... page 1 and 2. AG and MG for me. KEC uses 3M
wax and it's good
stuff but beyond that, sorry man.

Cheers

DIRAVI
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