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A Fatal Defect Of My Hyundai I 10


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joelkclim

Posted 07 June 2012 - 07:41 AM

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QUOTE (cfa @ Jun 6 2012, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Joel, what you need to do is to test the EPS to the max. Do this by going round-and-round your residential area, turning into corners, etc. If you only drive in a straight line, no much chance to test the EPS.


thank you cfa for this practical advice.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 09:35 PM

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QUOTE (Nokia6280 @ Jun 6 2012, 10:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hahahahahaha! another joke of the day again.. ask yourself first you want a car die and stop in the middle of the road or still able to move a bit that allow you to pull aside?

If you think stop in the middle of road is good then proof to us why? If you dare go drive in any highway.. drive around 80 km/h switch of the engine like what our friend joelkclim experiencing. You came back to tell us if you still alive on whether this is good design.

By the way where the hell get the info the steering stuck when a EPS overheat but engine is still running? If EPS failed the only thing you wouldn't have is power steering and not steering stuck. Even if you say steering stuck but at least the car is moving and the driver can slowly decrease the car speed and eventually stop it rather than sudden stop.

Some time don't just simply jump to the gun by giving untrue, no fact comments.

LASTLY! This is my first post to this forum... shoot also shoot wrongly.. Maybe raping the toll so much? Really, you can't run away from you good name "JAY RAPE TOLL".... smile_tongue.gif


Nokia,
How sure are you that cars with EPS could still turn when the electric motor failed? Hydraulic power steering relies on hydraulic flow on the actuator to ease the steering while the steering is still connected to the rack & pinion mechanically. Electric power steering for some cars brands I knew connected to the electric motor that drives the rack & pinion.

Cases of EPS overheating I received from technicians of renowned Japanese makes, the owners said they could not steer the steering at all as it is jammed when their EPS failed. If you think the steering could still turn when EPS failed by turning the key to ON without igniting the engine, that is totally wrong. Since it's running on electricity, like the ECU, the EPS received power supply whenever you turn the key to ON.

For joelkclim,
I forgot to inform him to perform extensive test on EPS by steering endlessly hard, it tends to overheat anyway. That is why sports cars, bigger segments and even BMW, Merc, etc, they are not encouraged to use EPS but stick to traditional hydraulic power steering to avoid getting steering jammed especially these cars could travel at higher speed when bad things happen. Not until someone technical could prove the EPS has failsafe like hydraulic power steering, I would avoid buying cars with EPS. If the engine shutdown is part of the failsafe when EPS and brakes failed like in other EU conti cars, it will still shut your engine down.

Back to Nokia,
Regarding the engine stop, don't you doubt it's part of a failsafe to prevent you from moving when you could not even turn at all? Or do you prefer like City, Latio that would still move when the steering is entirely jammed and if the driver panic and didn't brake end up slamming into others? Accord '09 VSC or ABS jammed case, you can still floor the pedal but the brake might win and you end up damaging the brake pads, is this better or do you prefer it to shutdown since you would not be able to drive to the side after all? The Teana so heavy yet using EPS, is that encouraged? Others prefer to have hydraulic.

jolokia,
I don't own the Forte SX, when I posted that comment at that time only driven it few times. Is there anything wrong if I am not sure whether it has keyhole? You haven't registered with AW yet but you seems to know everything I posted, does this mean that you are one of the existing old users that created new account to make it look like there are many people support those dumb marketing bunch?

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 03:05 PM

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joel,

any updates on your car ?

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:20 PM

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QUOTE (jayraptor @ Jun 17 2012, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
jolokia,
I don't own the Forte SX, when I posted that comment at that time only driven it few times. Is there anything wrong if I am not sure whether it has keyhole? You haven't registered with AW yet but you seems to know everything I posted, does this mean that you are one of the existing old users that created new account to make it look like there are many people support those dumb marketing bunch?

See my registration 3rd December 2010, anyway just because i have yet to register doesn't mean i can't read you comments, if i am not mistaken those "dumb" comments of yours was in 2011 smile_tongue.gif i even remember first you insist that there is a keyhole to start the engine, until some actual owner ask you to show them where is the Forte SX keyhole, then you finally brush it off by saying you are not sure, how lame 1237.gif

After reading through you comment for some time, i notice what ever you choose not to answer mean you admit it, does that mean Jayraptor must be one of those poor foreman who fail in in climbing corporate ladder is true ? blush.gif No wonder you are so frustrate that you taking your grunge here ! poor soul 059.gif
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:58 AM

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QUOTE (jolokia @ Jun 19 2012, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See my registration 3rd December 2010, anyway just because i have yet to register doesn't mean i can't read you comments, if i am not mistaken those "dumb" comments of yours was in 2011 smile_tongue.gif i even remember first you insist that there is a keyhole to start the engine, until some actual owner ask you to show them where is the Forte SX keyhole, then you finally brush it off by saying you are not sure, how lame 1237.gif

After reading through you comment for some time, i notice what ever you choose not to answer mean you admit it, does that mean Jayraptor must be one of those poor foreman who fail in in climbing corporate ladder is true ? blush.gif No wonder you are so frustrate that you taking your grunge here ! poor soul 059.gif


The Corporate ladder is already reserved and monopolised by your bunch. You all already conspired and planned well not to let anyone smarter than your leader to get on top so that you bunch would stay forever. Even the HR is on your sides be it N-brand or other brands. So far, only BMW, Merc, Audi, Pug, VW had their HQ in their countries sub to some local contractors that hire only engineers to lead and to handle the customer service. The Sales department is still led by mostly ex-sellman or business/marketing cert holder that don't know cars.

When comes to cars and anything related to machines and electronics, people like you bunch are not qualified to manage. Get lost and let the professionals replace you for good. Else, consumers problem will not be solved forever as you don't even care about quality and service anyway, just your own income and expenses.

Anything wrong if the SA gave me wrong info and at the end I still checked my colleague's SX to confirm. I actually snapped the photo but no reserved space to post on AW. Earlier is don't know how to clear cache but for now, I saved the space for other more important evidence.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 04:01 PM

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QUOTE (wheeLSpin @ Jun 18 2012, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
joel,

any updates on your car ?


After the change of the sensor, I feel smoother on the steering movement. this is the third week. So far so good.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:55 AM

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QUOTE (joelkclim @ Jun 20 2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After the change of the sensor, I feel smoother on the steering movement. this is the third week. So far so good.


Hi Bro, well good to hear that your problem is solved but honestly i am also fed-up with the service of hyundai after sales. But i am not saying all of the service centres because Hyundai tends to sub their service centres out to 2nd parties. Therefore its like each have their own 'bosses'.

I ran into this trouble with one of the service centre where they fix engine oil into my car without informing me before or after doing it. i asked the manager of the centre but with disappointment, manager gave several excuses and answering in a cocky way.

I called Glenmarie which is their HQ for Hyundai, and they told me nothing can they help me but gave me a Hotline Number for Customer Service. I did call them up and complaint but same they told me that they can only remind them they shouldn't mix without informing but nothing further can be done. And even after that, no one from the service centre even call me up.

I am really dissapointed with the after sales-service they are providing, where after all what matters as a car lover is the after sales-service.

In Selangor, i would recommend you USJ SC, boss is very humble and patient in solving any matters.