[Nokia6280]

So far, only N-brand that offers CRA2Y overtrade for any car to give indirect discount. Your boss daughter went for brand like Toyota, they don't give any overtrade yet the trade in value will be the exact offer made by used car dealers that is at Rm10k or 10% less than the market value. That means the Forte 1.6SX 2010 costs RM60k and the used car dealer that conned the boss daughter at RM50k would sell at RM62k-65k markup price. The new 2nd hand owner would pay RM65k if he didn't bargain and if he could bargain well, it'll be at RM62k and if he could twist even better, it'll be at RM60k.

FYi, even if it is City that costs RM60k market value, trade in at Toyota will only get RM50k as used car dealer profit margin is RM10 minimum, never less but can be more. You are twisting facts again, Sonata they do accept. Even Teana is not spared from the 10% less than market value trade in margin.

HOwever, with N-brand, bring in old no value Sephia '00 also they'll automatically give RM10-12k overtrade while still enjoying additional discount for Teana, Sylphy, X-Gear. Yes, you do know the used car market value well, that is why you are trying to create false impression to prevent people from finding out that the newer batch of Korean makes have proper resale value nowadays. Whereas it is your Sylphy that has poorer value today, if trade in at Toyota, market value at RM60k, used car will bring down trade in to RM50k. If you dislike the trade in value, go sell yourself, it'll be harder to dispose the Sylphy compared to Forte in used car market.

Jay Rap Tor .... tell me where you can get 100% worth trusted seller.... show me which car product is 100% proven good! Almost few months away from Autoword.. Cabut..

[jayraptor]

Goes to show not everyone as smart as you la Jaya-I-Took-A-Crap...

Actaually, ALL the car makers should hire u as their advisor since you are soooo smart

Correction: cars that are good eventually have less con for you to bring down with facts. Your rumors and false claim could be easily proven false as they aren't even facts. Relying on such unethical business strategy could work in the start but as soon as owners found out when their cars are not getting anywhere close yet with almost half the difference, you'll bring trouble to yourself.


"Stalin : tell me where you can get 100% worth trusted seller.... show me which car product is 100% proven good! smile_tongue.gif Almost few months away from Autoword.. Cabut.. "

There is no 100% trusted seller. However, at least they don't use false exaggerated claim and spread misleading facts to get sales. Unlike you bunch, not just spreading false exaggerated claims yet dare to spread wrong information on other competitors that are giving proper products to prevent them from winning.

[jolokia]

Correction: cars that are good eventually have less con for you to bring down with facts. Your rumors and false claim could be easily proven false as they aren't even facts. Relying on such unethical business strategy could work in the start but as soon as owners found out when their cars are not getting anywhere close yet with almost half the difference, you'll bring trouble to yourself.


"Stalin : tell me where you can get 100% worth trusted seller.... show me which car product is 100% proven good! smile_tongue.gif Almost few months away from Autoword.. Cabut.. "

There is no 100% trusted seller. However, at least they don't use false exaggerated claim and spread misleading facts to get sales. Unlike you bunch, not just spreading false exaggerated claims yet dare to spread wrong information on other competitors that are giving proper products to prevent them from winning.

Just 2 short answer.

1.) Test review by top journalist & user experience proof that ur FC data claim r false.
2.) That is what happen to Hwontai & KIAsu been sue by consumer group for false fuel claim.

[jayraptor]

Just 2 short answer.

1.) Test review by top journalist & user experience proof that ur FC data claim r false.
2.) That is what happen to Hwontai & KIAsu been sue by consumer group for false fuel claim.

1) Those top journalist you mean get to be called top because there are no more professional journalist left. Either retired or left for good. So amongst the don't know anything about cars ownership, they are self claimed the top. Nothing else and there aren't many readers left that would really read their articles and reviews due to no longer ethical.

2) Standard manufacturers' FC reading are based on US/EU city/highway traffic dated back in 1990's and does not cover flooring the pedal, not to mention exceeding 3000rpm. All involved lightfoot only on 90's less traffic road. Fyi, Hyundai/Kia FC claim difference of only 1-2mpg that is just within 1km/L difference which is normal, the same goes to Toyota, Honda and Nissan in US too. Only the Kia Soul highway FC difference at 6mpg = 2.6km/L in today's US highway heavier traffic.

>>You better look at your products exaggerated FC first before you even talk about others.

[jolokia]

1) Those top journalist you mean get to be called top because there are no more professional journalist left. Either retired or left for good. So amongst the don't know anything about cars ownership, they are self claimed the top. Nothing else and there aren't many readers left that would really read their articles and reviews due to no longer ethical.

2) Standard manufacturers' FC reading are based on US/EU city/highway traffic dated back in 1990's and does not cover flooring the pedal, not to mention exceeding 3000rpm. All involved lightfoot only on 90's less traffic road. Fyi, Hyundai/Kia FC claim difference of only 1-2mpg that is just within 1km/L difference which is normal, the same goes to Toyota, Honda and Nissan in US too. Only the Kia Soul highway FC difference at 6mpg = 2.6km/L in today's US highway heavier traffic.

>>You better look at your products exaggerated FC first before you even talk about others.

The r top coz a lot of people reading the review post on their website, many auto related business advertised on their website coz they known many potential customer visit this websites, why don't start ur own Blogspot & show us ur reading or hit rate.
6mpg & u called that no big deal ? Those news u read r base on Hwontai KIAsu report, wait untill the court case to see the details.

[jayraptor]

The r top coz a lot of people reading the review post on their website, many auto related business advertised on their website coz they known many potential customer visit this websites, why don't start ur own Blogspot & show us ur reading or hit rate.
6mpg & u called that no big deal ? Those news u read r base on Hwontai KIAsu report, wait untill the court case to see the details.

The 6mpg = 2.6km/L difference only in Kia Soul for highway cruising at constant 90km/h with almost zero traffic. Fyi, Kia Sould is not even involved in the lawsuit.

I don't read news from carmakers. I read from consumers and consumer rights groups.

Difference between Sylphy real FC vs your exaggerated false FC claim, taking only city vs city:
Your claim 16km/L = 37.6mpg
Actual even with RON97 8.9-9.0km/: = 20.9-21.2mpg
Difference of 7.1km/L = 16.7mpg

Whatever your FC claim spread via any infected journalists, they have even broken Honda hybrid FC that most modern more advanced Japanese and Korean made can't achieve, not even by carmakers never exceed FC claim.

[jolokia]

The 6mpg = 2.6km/L difference only in Kia Soul for highway cruising at constant 90km/h with almost zero traffic. Fyi, Kia Sould is not even involved in the lawsuit.

I don't read news from carmakers. I read from consumers and consumer rights groups.

Difference between Sylphy real FC vs your exaggerated false FC claim, taking only city vs city:
Your claim 16km/L = 37.6mpg
Actual even with RON97 8.9-9.0km/: = 20.9-21.2mpg
Difference of 7.1km/L = 16.7mpg

Whatever your FC claim spread via any infected journalists, they have even broken Honda hybrid FC that most modern more advanced Japanese and Korean made can't achieve, not even by carmakers never exceed FC claim.

Both the FC figures been claimed by ur good self, so ask ur left brain to sued ur right brain, either one side loose opps I mean lost, we r happy.